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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Yes. The biological "fathers" should have no responsibility here-- and, correspondingly and more importantly, no rights.
    However, in most cases, that isn't the case. If any of these fathers comes forward, they would have the rights because they are their biological father.

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    No. Is it his childrens' fault? No. They shouldn't lose their father because of their mother's adultery-- and if he were a man, he would do right by his children regardless.
    And if he doesn't want to raise them, that is his right. It is the responsibility of the biological parents both financially to raise a child.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

    I have absolutely no sympathy for this man. Married for sixteen years, raising four children for over a decade-- and he demands a paternity test when he gets a divorce? I think about the message that sends his children and all I can think is "**** this guy". And I reject the notion that, again, after a decade of raising three children that he is anything but their real father.
    I don't think this is unprecedented. I believe laws in all states enforce that any children born in a marriage are automatically assumed (by the law) to be the husband's unless exception is taken at birth. I'm not certain of that, but I believe it to be true.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Yes, but that is because of the nonsense people are putting forward in this thread, that the biological father matters more than the father who gave them his name.
    That "nonsense" has been put forth by court precidence.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    I'd say it depends on which man's name is on the birth certificate. Mother chooses the hearth, father chooses the children.
    I understand that, however when it comes to who is the effective father, the bio father would be.
    Assuming that he and the mother stay together, he will have the most time to spend with the children and the children would likely recognize him, as the father.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't think this is unprecedented. I believe laws in all states enforce that any children born in a marriage are automatically assumed (by the law) to be the husband's unless exception is taken at birth. I'm not certain of that, but I believe it to be true.

    Nice try, JERK. 'Course she is, too . . .
    Honestly - I think it's a bit worse to reject children you LOVE - how can anything break that love?

    I have four children - two fathers - and nothing - NOTHING - would ever make me love them less or turn away from them. There's nothing they could ever say or do. They could hate me - hell - they could probably murder their father or turn into psychos and kill kids in school and somehow I know I'd still ****ing love them any damned way.

    Because that love might get sidelined by crazy **** - but it can never break. All it does is get supported by hope - hope that if they're on death row for murdering 50 people in some sick twisted crazy **** that they'd see their wrongs and remember that they're supposed to be loving on the inside. . .you know - that genuine blind motherly ****.

    Did he ever love them? OR did they just have the ****tiest family ever and hang on for far too damn long - cheating over and over on her part sounds like they were all just living a sham and no one was vested in it emotionally . . . so why did they stay together?

    Ugh! What a mind**** . . . and who gets it in the end? The children - which is just horrifically tragic.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Honestly - I think it's a bit worse to reject children you LOVE - how can anything break that love?

    I have four children - two fathers - and nothing - NOTHING - would ever make me love them less or turn away from them. There's nothing they could ever say or do. They could hate me - hell - they could probably murder their father or turn into psychos and kill kids in school and somehow I know I'd still ****ing love them any damned way.

    Because that love might get sidelined by crazy **** - but it can never break.

    Did he ever love them? OR did they just have the ****tiest family ever and hang on for far too damn long - cheating over and over on her part sounds like they were all just living a sham and no one was vested in it emotionally . . . so why did they stay together?

    Ugh! What a mind**** . . . and who gets it in the end? The children - which is just horrifically tragic.
    I don't think I could stop loving my children, even if I found out one or both, weren't mine.
    With all that said, I think I'd need a good bit of counseling.

    In my opinion, infidelity should be considered spousal abuse.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    They should change the law like they did in Texas a while back.

    Until the law is changed no men should ever sign any form claiming paternity without a DNA test.

    Men need to stand up for their rights.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    To be fair, the man was a father to those children due to extreme coercion and fraud on behalf of the bio-mom. To dismiss the natural biological rights of the bio-dads based upon the mother's deception and lies is also a serious issue here. I completely reject the idea that the biological father of any child is without rights to those children on the basis of the bio-mother's whims.

    That said, the acting father's rights were never fully exercised at an appropriate time because of the fraud perpetrated against him. As much as the bio-fathers' rights were infringed, so were those of the acting father. The only person in the initial scenario guilty of any offense is the whoreish bio-mom.

    In terms of the present issue: If you were led to believe that a child was yours and found out years later than it wasn't, would you not have a lot of initial anger and hurt? And as a human, would you not be likely to say and do things immediately upon discovering that truth that might be hurtful or counterproductive? Likewise, if you're the bio-dad of one of these children and you don't find out until years later, would you not be likely to feel as if something were taken or withheld from you?

    I don't really wanna burn the guy down. He's dealing with a lot of hurt right now. I think he'll eventually realize what's best for the children and rediscover the love he has for them. But the woman? **** her. She deserves to pay for what she did.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    To be fair, the man was a father to those children due to extreme coercion and fraud on behalf of the bio-mom. To dismiss the natural biological rights of the bio-dads based upon the mother's deception and lies is also a serious issue here. I completely reject the idea that the biological father of any child is without rights to those children on the basis of the bio-mother's whims.

    That said, the acting father's rights were never fully exercised at an appropriate time because of the fraud perpetrated against him. As much as the bio-fathers' rights were infringed, so were those of the acting father. The only person in the initial scenario guilty of any offense is the whoreish bio-mom.

    In terms of the present issue: If you were led to believe that a child was yours and found out years later than it wasn't, would you not have a lot of initial anger and hurt? And as a human, would you not be likely to say and do things immediately upon discovering that truth that might be hurtful or counterproductive? Likewise, if you're the bio-dad of one of these children and you don't find out until years later, would you not be likely to feel as if something were taken or withheld from you?

    I don't really wanna burn the guy down. He's dealing with a lot of hurt right now. I think he'll eventually realize what's best for the children and rediscover the love he has for them. But the woman? **** her. She deserves to pay for what she did.
    It would definitely be a lot to take in.
    I'd probably break down.

    Not so much because of the children not being biologically mine, but because of the violated trust.
    My wife is one of the few people I do trust and to have that torn down, would be incredibly difficult to bear.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    I don't know about everyplace but around here the law is pretty simple.

    Who's name is on the Birth Certificate as Father, who represents themselves as the father in public and legal contracts, and that includes everything from insurance to school permission slips, and who claims the tax deduction.

    IF the biological father can be found, tested and a court judgement obtained then the husband can get off the hook.

    Until then the law is clear and we are a nation of laws and our local courts have to rule based on the law... (your courts may vary... )

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