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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Sure - you don't get the emotional and psychological impact. . . that's fine.

    What do you mean mean by 'I am not even considering support as the basis of my position' - that's what this whole issues is about: who pays child support? the bio fathers after 12 / 14 / 16 years . . . or the father figure who has been there for 12 / 14 / 16 years and those girls grew up knowing as 'dad - our provider'

    To me - the damage is done when the father they HAVE known says 'see-ya - don't care about ya - someone else who doesn't know you at all can provide for you - not me - not my concern suddenly' . . . he shouldn't be allowed to stab the girls in the back like that.
    yea. i was concerned about that, too
    he has been these girls' father for up to 16 years and then he goes to court to disavow them
    can't even imagine how much that must hurt
    worse than being disowned, because even then 'ownership' was once recognized

    and my speculation is this fellow did not know or even suspect the girls were not his own until his estranged wife exposed that ugly truth to him once the marriage was found irreparable
    can't imagine how much that would hurt, either, knowing that the kids you had helped feed and raise for 16 years were from the seed of another man. that he had been so deceived for 16 years has to cut to the quick

    so, in all of this, we see that there are definitely no winners. the kids are deeply hurt and left to the custody of their deceptive, whoring mother. and the father, feeling wronged, betrayed the unconditional love of his daughters

    the whole situation sucks. but the judge made the right call
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    If the man who raised the children to sub adulthood isn't their father, but the unknown Lothario who slept with their mother years ago is, then it follows that fatherhood depends on biology, and that fatherhood begins when the father's sperm meets the mother's egg. Therefore, fatherhood begins at conception. If that is so, then the father has as much of a stake in any decision about abortion as the mother does.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The reporting doesn't say if maybe he sought custody or even visitation. Could have been the motivation for the DNA testing in the first place. I could see him having this reaction after finding out and having custody/visitation denied then getting charged for it monthly.

    Or maybe he's just one of those folks who believe blood is thicker than water and isn't at all interested in someone else's children. Dick move, but once again, no matter how you spin this - they are not his kids (legally).
    Yes - the articles I've read are very limited on facts because they're underage.

    And legally - they just ruled they were. So obviously you just don't agree . . . I think you'd feel different if you were in their position. I definitely would.

    Let's pretend this: My husband didn't adopt my boys.
    He married me with them having been born so knowledge was there.

    Lets say that a few years ago when I left him and took the kids we got a divorce.

    He - is all they know as a father - no ruling of the court. No biological connection to a father who was never in their life for a variety of reasons - would change that FOR THE KIDS. They will have memories of him as their father and think of him as their father for their entire life - because that's what he was.

    That relationship to a child doesn't' end just because of some legalities and secret revelations.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No doubt the situation is ****ed up and much of that is going to cause stress and maybe depression for the kids, but that is life. There is no reason to acknowledge something that isn't true, sorry. He isn't their dad, its just a cold hard fact of life, but on the bright side he didn't say he didn't love them. Though he might of conveyed that to the kids. I have already said in this thread that I think he did the right thing though.



    In my mind when someone says they don't want to be forced to pay child support for kids that are not their own they are not saying they don't love the kids. Sure, it means he will lose parental rights, but that doesn't mean he can't be involved in their life in one way or the other.
    The bolded is untrue. He is still their dad, simply not their biological father. That difference is very important. His love and respect for his children should not be diminished by the actions of his ex-wife, but the child support is likely required to be paid to her, making it such a bitter pill to swallow.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

    I have absolutely no sympathy for this man. Married for sixteen years, raising four children for over a decade-- and he demands a paternity test when he gets a divorce? I think about the message that sends his children and all I can think is "**** this guy". And I reject the notion that, again, after a decade of raising three children that he is anything but their real father.
    Agreed. If he had any doubts previously about the paternity of those children, he should have sought that out long before he raised them. It takes MUCH more to be a parent, then just donating sperm or an egg.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    What if we were in a different situation entirely:

    What if - let's say - Mom died . . . and on her deathbed she told the truth.

    Would the naysayers who don't believe he's 'legally bound' to them be content with given permission/the right to continue to care for them even though they weren't biologically his? Or would they want the children placed in the care of their bio dad?

    I guarantee you that everyone would say 'of course they're his kids! He has the right to continue to raise them - the fact that they were fathered by someone else so many years ago doesn't matter because he is there for them!' . . . see - that establishes it right there.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    And legally - they just ruled they were. So obviously you just don't agree . . . I think you'd feel different if you were in their position. I definitely would.
    No, they didn't rule the kids were his, nor is there any mention of visitation or him having ANY parental rights. The court just ruled he must pay the child support anyway.

    Also not mentioned in the article, does he get to see the kids? Perhaps he took this move after the court ruled he could no longer have any visitation (because he is not the legal father).

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The bolded is untrue. He is still their dad, simply not their biological father. That difference is very important. His love and respect for his children should not be diminished by the actions of his ex-wife, but the child support is likely required to be paid to her, making it such a bitter pill to swallow.
    My son is adopted and I very much agree with what you've said here. I did not give birth to him like I did my daughter and they are no different in my eyes because of it.

    I can understand his bitterness toward his ex-wife - however - he is a truly heartless SOB if after raising these children for most of their lives, states now that they are not "his children".

    Instead of whining about the paternity at THIS POINT - why doesn't he seek sole custody of the children and have his exwife pay child support to him? If I were him, I'd also find out what it would take to adopt them.

    Whatever. People are so stinking selfish and self absorbed any more. It makes me sick to my stomach.

    I feel horrible for these kids ...
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, they didn't rule the kids were his, nor is there any mention of visitation or him having ANY parental rights. The court just ruled he must pay the child support anyway.
    We actually don't know any of the other stuff - we can't assume one way or the other when it's not provided.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    We actually don't know any of the other stuff - we can't assume one way or the other when it's not provided.
    And yet here we are.

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