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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Wrong.

    You don't know WTF you're talking about.

    Are you sure you do?

    If you have been ordered to pay by an income withholding where support is deducted directly from your paycheck or bank account, you must still pay through the Ohio Child Support Payment Central until the support is deducted from your wages or your account. Most deductions take two to three weeks to begin after the support order is finalized. Do not make support payments directly to the custodial parent. Ohio Law deems direct payments a gift. For your convenience, the Crawford County CSEA offers several options for making and receiving child support payments.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Are you sure you do?
    Positive. And your link confirms what I said.

    The money is not paid to the court.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    they do
    it's administered thru the custodial parents

    it is a terribly flawed system, not unlike sending welfare checks to layabout parents of kids in a single-parent household and hoping the kids receive enough of it to maintain their welfare
    but unfortunately, it is better than any other system yet devised
    Of course, I don't support welfare either.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

    I have absolutely no sympathy for this man. Married for sixteen years, raising four children for over a decade-- and he demands a paternity test when he gets a divorce? I think about the message that sends his children and all I can think is "**** this guy". And I reject the notion that, again, after a decade of raising three children that he is anything but their real father.
    Guess you missed the part where his ex wife told him the children weren't his after the fact. I'd demand a paternity test too, and have nothing to do with them if discovered they weren't mine. If the mother wants child support, she can go find the real fathers.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    He might have grounds for a fraud case against the mother. As the biological parent of those 3 daughters she should be responsible for finding the fathers of each and going through the legal motions of finding them support. Her actions---her children---her responsibility.

    Just because the husband in this case accepted the responsibility of caring for those children under false pretenses (that they were biologically his), doesnt mean the responsibility remains his after the true facts of her marital fraud were discovered.

    Its not a matter of him shirking responsibility for the care of "his" daughters, its a matter of her lies misrepresenting whose they were. In this case the state looks like an interested party due to possibly incuring welfare costs. The final decision appears biased to me.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

    I have absolutely no sympathy for this man. Married for sixteen years, raising four children for over a decade-- and he demands a paternity test when he gets a divorce? I think about the message that sends his children and all I can think is "**** this guy". And I reject the notion that, again, after a decade of raising three children that he is anything but their real father.
    Wow. What a mess. Parent 1 is a chronic cheater who doesn't have enough brains to avoid getting pregnant and who doesn't have an ounce of self-preservation and goes around having sex without protection in this day and age. Parent 2 knows about the cheating and puts up with it for almost 2 decades, raises 4 kids and then turns around and tries to get out of child support for 3 of those kids who grew up calling him Daddy.

    I just feel sorry for the kids.

    From a legal standpoint, though, I disagree with the court's decision. These 3 kids are not legally his and he shouldn't have to support children fathered by other men unless he adopts them. And that's what a decent man would do. Adopt them. No matter how messed up things get with the mother, these kids see him as their Dad. He raised them from infancy. They're his kids in every way that matters.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Positive. And your link confirms what I said.

    The money is not paid to the court.

    Well, it's a small point, but I think he may have meant court ordered. But, I do know this, for example child support in say Michigan is paid to a organization called "Friend of the court". They report to the court system, and are directed to collected court ordered support, and distribute it. If you don't pay, you won't find yourself in front of a bureaucrat, rather in front of a Judge.

    So, I guess if you want to split hairs, then you're correct, support is not paid directly to the courts, but they are paid to the state. A minor distinction.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Are you kidding me? He is listed as their father on their birth certificates, he is the only father that these kids have ever known and he has supported them since birth. Daddy, legal guardian and supporting parent are not determined by DNA alone. Just what, in the judge's ruling, did you not understand as being legally binding?
    Pick your poison. Is the person who provided the sperm the father, as in Kansas: Kansas hits up sperm donor for child support - CNN.com , or is it who raised them?

    What happens if the biological father wants parental rights? Are you going to support kicking the raising father out of the picture in favor of the biological father, or would tell the biological father to take a hike since he didn't raise them?

    Its all about consistency in the law, and you can't pick and choose which way you want it to work.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    they do
    it's administered thru the custodial parents

    it is a terribly flawed system, not unlike sending welfare checks to layabout parents of kids in a single-parent household and hoping the kids receive enough of it to maintain their welfare
    but unfortunately, it is better than any other system yet devised
    I disagree to a point.
    There are clearly ways of making it better, it's just that there is a lot of resistance to such changes.
    One change that should be made is making infidelity a serious matter in a divorce, with some kind of consequence.

    As it is now, you can screw an entire orchestra, while married and not much will come of it.
    Err, in some states at least.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Pick your poison. Is the person who provided the sperm the father, as in Kansas: Kansas hits up sperm donor for child support - CNN.com , or is it who raised them?

    What happens if the biological father wants parental rights? Are you going to support kicking the raising father out of the picture in favor of the biological father, or would tell the biological father to take a hike since he didn't raise them?

    Its all about consistency in the law, and you can't pick and choose which way you want it to work.
    The Kansas case is strange indeed, I think that judge/Kansas law is whacked and should be overturned on appeal. It seems that Canada has much better laws/judges.
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