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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Just a couple of points of clarification. Firstly, the husband testified that he was aware the wife had affairs. Secondly, the youngest child, his only son, is biologically his - his three oldest, daughters, are not biologically his - thus, he was still if not in love with her, in bed with her, well after the infidelity and thus accepting of her lifestyle. Thirdly, and perhaps most importantly, this is an order for "child support" not spousal support - the children have only known one father and they should not be punished for the sins of their parents, particularly the mother's.

    The husband testified that he knew about the affairs, however, he also thought he was the biological father of all the children.

    It's not the fault of the children, but it's not the fault of the man either that he isn't the father of the those other kids. BTW, so what is the responsibility for the biological father of those children, nothing?

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It's not the fault of the children, but it's not the fault of the man either that he isn't the father of the those other kids. BTW, so what is the responsibility for the biological father of those children, nothing?
    Pretty much, yeah. Which is worse, finding out that your wife has cheated on you and had children by other men, or finding out that your wife had children by other men and those men are now legally entitled to steal them from you?

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    He is not the biological father of three of his four children. The court is demanding, rightfully, that he pay child support for those three anyway because they are still his children.
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    Just because a court ordered it, doesn't make it right does it?

    Again I'll ask, what is the responsibilty then of the biological fathers? Nothing? Do you think that is correct?

    The man thought he was their bioilogical father and it turns out he isn't. Is that his fault?

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Aside from the fact that we've had this argument before, you do realize that this news story is the courts acting according to my views and not yours, right?

    He is not the biological father of three of his four children. The court is demanding, rightfully, that he pay child support for those three anyway because they are still his children.



    Somehow, people have gotten the impression that I don't approve of the court's decision. This is not the case.
    I wasn't trying to imply you have a position one way or another, just clarifying for your reading public - and just to correct, he is the biological father of one of the four, the last one, not three of the four.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Pretty much, yeah. Which is worse, finding out that your wife has cheated on you and had children by other men, or finding out that your wife had children by other men and those men are now legally entitled to steal them from you?
    And if any of those fathers comes forward, they will be able to steal the children away anyway. In almost all court rulings the biological parents have rights over the non-biological.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Just because a court ordered it, doesn't make it right does it?
    No. What makes it right is that he is their father, paternity tests be damned. He raised them for ten years in his home. They bear his name. They are his children and he is responsible for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Again I'll ask, what is the responsibilty then of the biological fathers? Nothing? Do you think that is correct?
    Yes. The biological "fathers" should have no responsibility here-- and, correspondingly and more importantly, no rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The man thought he was their bioilogical father and it turns out he isn't. Is that his fault?
    No. Is it his childrens' fault? No. They shouldn't lose their father because of their mother's adultery-- and if he were a man, he would do right by his children regardless.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The husband testified that he knew about the affairs, however, he also thought he was the biological father of all the children.

    It's not the fault of the children, but it's not the fault of the man either that he isn't the father of the those other kids. BTW, so what is the responsibility for the biological father of those children, nothing?
    If the biological father was known of any of the other three children, I'm sure either the mother or father could take them to court - there are, apparently, three different fathers for the oldest three children. That said, courts have gone on record now for several years as saying that the father children have known all their lives is the responsible father, regardless of who biologically fathered the child.

    It is curious though that in a recent news article I saw - I'm not sure if it was in the US or in Canada - where a lesbian couple, through artificial insemination, had a child and then divorced and the courts decided that the sperm donor had to pay child support rather than the female "father". Does seem to be a double standard.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Pretty much, yeah. Which is worse, finding out that your wife has cheated on you and had children by other men, or finding out that your wife had children by other men and those men are now legally entitled to steal them from you?
    There was an interesting case I read a while back.
    Wife got pregnant, had twins (iirc), then divorced her husband, who was the legal father and moved in with the biological father.
    The twins were still infants.

    How would you view that?
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And if any of those fathers comes forward, they will be able to steal the children away anyway. In almost all court rulings the biological parents have rights over the non-biological.
    Yes, but that is because of the nonsense people are putting forward in this thread, that the biological father matters more than the father who gave them his name.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    There was an interesting case I read a while back.
    Wife got pregnant, had twins (iirc), then divorced her husband, who was the legal father and moved in with the biological father.
    The twins were still infants.

    How would you view that?
    I'd say it depends on which man's name is on the birth certificate. Mother chooses the hearth, father chooses the children.

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