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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Once again, take the weepy emotion out of it. Yes, he's a ****heel if he's now disowning the kids. But being a "father figure" does not put one on the hook for child support, no matter how long you serve in that role. Outside of this court's odd action he now has no legal responsibility or ties to them. He's simply in limbo where it comes to a legal relationship with them. He can't sue for custody because he's neither the biological nor the adopted parent. Heck, I'm not even sure he can get visitation.
    He supported them all this time - what are you going to argue, next, that they owe him for all his investments?
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    But why should someone who isn't a parent be forced to be financially responsible for someone who isn't their kid? If you married someone who had kids, does that automatically make you responsible for those kids for the rest of your life?
    Because he is the parent. He has been raising them for their entire lives. It doesn't matter if their DNA matches; he's the parent.

    It's pretty evil that the woman didn't tell him she was screwing around and getting up the duff by other guys, but he is the only co-parent in this situation. The sperm providers are simply that.

    He didn't simply marry her. He raised them with her for years.

    If he had concerns about paternity, that should have been raised early on, not a decade and a half later. It's not about her and what she did to him. It's about those kids who need two parents. He is the only father they have.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    He supported them all this time - what are you going to argue, next, that they owe him for all his investments?
    No, and you keep trying to make this about morality. It's not. I agree with you on the moral side of the issue (I bolded it because you seem to keep missing that).

    IF anyone owes him for what he's paid in over the years it'd be the biological parents (his ex and whomever are the bio fathers of these kids). But in practicality, that just won't happen. However, that is passed, dinging him into the future is the issue.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, and you keep trying to make this about morality. It's not. I agree with you on the moral side of the issue (I bolded it because you seem to keep missing that).

    IF anyone owes him for what he's paid in over the years it'd be the biological parents (his ex and whomever are the bio fathers of these kids). But in practicality, that just won't happen. However, that is passed, dinging him into the future is the issue.
    You are making it about morality by reverting back to their biological fathers on a moral obligation they have to their offspring.

    At some point it's just too late for that **** - after over a decade I call that a dead end and an offensive suggestion.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Do you think bio parents should pay all expenses of the adoptive parents they give their child to?

    If not, then yes, it does make a difference.

    Combining gametes does not make someone a parent. It just makes them someone who had with sex without birth control.
    No, it makes no difference at all when thinking about the question. Taking up the role of fatherhood is not the same as actually being the father of a child. As for your question, no, I don't.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Because he is the parent. He has been raising them for their entire lives. It doesn't matter if their DNA matches; he's the parent.

    It's pretty evil that the woman didn't tell him she was screwing around and getting up the duff by other guys, but he is the only co-parent in this situation. The sperm providers are simply that.

    He didn't simply marry her. He raised them with her for years.

    If he had concerns about paternity, that should have been raised early on, not a decade and a half later. It's not about her and what she did to him. It's about those kids who need two parents. He is the only father they have.
    Well, he's NOT the parent now is he? Not legally. So he shouldn't have to (again legally) continue with the financial support. And he might not have had concerns over paternity until they were embroiled in the divorce. This wouldn't be the first time some party was surprised in a divorce.

    As to that last, legally speaking he is not the "only father they have", he's not even one of the fathers they have. He's nothing (legally) but the guy who has been mandated to pay.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Addressing the OP,

    This isn't fair, and the whole family court system in Canada and the US is a freaking joke. Anyone who has experienced it in ANY capacity can well atest to this statement. I have for many years advocated for a jury system in family court matters. It's the only fair way to make sure justice is being served to all parties including and most importantly the children of marriage.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, it makes no difference at all when thinking about the question. Taking up the role of fatherhood is not the same as actually being the father of a child. As for your question, no, I don't.
    It makes all the difference in the world. That's why "bio father" is a common term and "adoptive father" isn't. We usually just call the latter "father."

    This isn't much different than the question I posed. Yes, he didn't walk into it knowingly, and the woman is obviously a pretty crappy person for not saying anything, but if he had doubt that should have been brought up right away, not a decade later.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Because he is the parent. He has been raising them for their entire lives. It doesn't matter if their DNA matches; he's the parent.

    It's pretty evil that the woman didn't tell him she was screwing around and getting up the duff by other guys, but he is the only co-parent in this situation. The sperm providers are simply that.

    He didn't simply marry her. He raised them with her for years.

    If he had concerns about paternity, that should have been raised early on, not a decade and a half later. It's not about her and what she did to him. It's about those kids who need two parents. He is the only father they have.
    At exactly what month is the cutoff where you become permanently financially liable for the children of someone you were with?

    1 month? 6 months? 6 years?
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You are making it about morality by reverting back to their biological fathers on a moral obligation they have to their offspring.

    At some point it's just too late for that **** - after over a decade I call that a dead end and an offensive suggestion.
    No, I'm not. The obligation I've been taking about is the LEGAL obligation of the biological parents and you know it. Not to mention it's you who made the offensive suggestion in the first place.

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