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    CBO : 7 Million to Lose their Insurance under Obamacare

    Gosh. Goodness Gracious. Well who could have predicted that?!?


    President Obama's health care law will push 7 million people out of their job-based insurance coverage — nearly twice the previous estimate, according to the latest estimates from the Congressional Budget Office released Tuesday...

    But the non-partisan agency also expects fewer people to have to pay individual penalties to the IRS than it earlier projects, because of a better method for calculating incomes that found more people will be exempt.


    Overall, the new health provisions are expected to cost the government $1.165 trillion over the next decade...
    Oh. Wait. Lots of people predicted this, to the collective ignorance of the la-la-law-we-can't-hear-you-obamacare-is-wonderful-no-matter-what's-in-it crowd.

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    Re: CBO : 7 Million to Lose their Insurance under Obamacare

    Again, if we just did the smart thing and went for UHC like all the reformers wanted in the first place, all of this could have been avoided. Instead the got the watered down, profit driven, Romneycare plan. Aren't you proud of yourself?
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    Re: CBO : 7 Million to Lose their Insurance under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Again, if we just did the smart thing and went for UHC like all the reformers wanted in the first place, all of this could have been avoided. Instead the got the watered down, profit driven, Romneycare plan. Aren't you proud of yourself?
    And have rationed care and medical technology from the stone age? No thank you.

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    Re: CBO : 7 Million to Lose their Insurance under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Again, if we just did the smart thing and went for UHC like all the reformers wanted in the first place, all of this could have been avoided. Instead the got the watered down, profit driven, Romneycare plan. Aren't you proud of yourself?
    Not me, I'm was against The 100% Democrat Obamacare from the get-go, when I realized what it contained. And no, "all the reformers" didn't want this - or else that is what they would have done. It's not that single-payer couldn't pass due to opposition from Republicans, single payer couldn't pass due to opposition from Democrats. This bill was 100% the result of deal-making within the Democrat caucus. Own it.

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    Re: CBO : 7 Million to Lose their Insurance under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Not me, I'm was against The 100% Democrat Obamacare from the get-go, when I realized what it contained. And no, "all the reformers" didn't want this - or else that is what they would have done. It's not that single-payer couldn't pass due to opposition from Republicans, single payer couldn't pass due to opposition from Democrats. This bill was 100% the result of deal-making within the Democrat caucus. Own it.
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    Precisely my argument against a UHC.

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    Re: CBO : 7 Million to Lose their Insurance under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    And have rationed care and medical technology from the stone age? No thank you.
    Hm. It occurs to me. Let's not let them desperately try to derail a discussion of the amazing and catastrophic failure of Obamacare and the resultant increased hardship and negative consequences for the American people into another theoretical debate on how much they love UHC.


    Obamacare is a destructive gargantuan leviathan of regulatory code and destructive incentive structures seemingly almost designed to destroy our health care system. They should be forced to answer for that.

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    Re: CBO : 7 Million to Lose their Insurance under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Gosh. Goodness Gracious. Well who could have predicted that?!?




    Oh. Wait. Lots of people predicted this, to the collective ignorance of the la-la-law-we-can't-hear-you-obamacare-is-wonderful-no-matter-what's-in-it crowd.
    Kinda like the same people who supported PPACA, are likely to be the same that oppose cuts to Medicare, even though PPACA had cuts to Medicare.
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    Re: CBO : 7 Million to Lose their Insurance under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Kinda like the same people who supported PPACA, are likely to be the same that oppose cuts to Medicare, even though PPACA had cuts to Medicare.
    Remember Florida 2000 when Democrats were complaining that the ballots weren't fair because a disproportionate percentage of their base was illiterate or senile?

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    Re: CBO : 7 Million to Lose their Insurance under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Remember Florida 2000 when Democrats were complaining that the ballots weren't fair because a disproportionate percentage of their electorate was illiterate or senile?
    Politics brings out the most unusual crap in people.
    They can support two opposing policies at the same time, seemingly because of the letter beside their candidates name.
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    Re: CBO : 7 Million to Lose their Insurance under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Hm. It occurs to me. Let's not let them desperately try to derail a discussion of the amazing and catastrophic failure of Obamacare and the resultant increased hardship and negative consequences for the American people into another theoretical debate on how much they love UHC.


    Obamacare is a destructive gargantuan leviathan of regulatory code and destructive incentive structures seemingly almost designed to destroy our health care system. They should be forced to answer for that.
    Let's hope the American people are smart enough to realize that this is the road that socialized medicine takes us. Don't fall for the trojan horse, when this thing blows up in our faces, we need to do what we should've done in the first place, which is liberalize the healthcare market. My mom is a nurse at a hospital, and they are gutting staff left and right in the wake of reimbursement cuts. Not to mention, they get zero reimbursement if a patient is readmitted within 30 days. That's not going to cut down on readmissions, that's going to increase them and bankrupt hospitals.

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