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    Re: Gay marriage: MPs debate and vote, The Ayes have it!

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    And me entering into a heterosexual relationship would be damaging to my place in society as a whole, and would damage my soul probably beyond repair. So with your own logic you should support SSM, and homosexual relationships.
    Honestly, I could give a crap about an individual's soul (except perhaps my own) but the damage to society (particularly in regard to the generation of dishonesty and most importantly in the effect of unrealized potential) is unacceptable.

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    Re: Gay marriage: MPs debate and vote, The Ayes have it!

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    And me entering into a heterosexual relationship would be damaging to my place in society as a whole, and would damage my soul probably beyond repair. So with your own logic you should support SSM, and homosexual relationships.
    In as respectful a manner as possible, Star.... so far as I'm concerned people of your viewpoint don't have a soul. At least not one that is worth anything. I understand and fully accept that you probably feel the exact same way about me. That's fine. Nothing is going to change either of our viewpoints on this topic.



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    Tigger hates hoochy-koochy?
    Not at all. I just believe that it has a proper time, place, and set of participants. I'm not a big believer in casual sex.

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    I bet she is praying that she will be special and you will never physically attack her. We'll see what she thinks after the first time you actually whup her ass.
    We're 13 months into the relationship (as of today) and that has yet to be an issue. Hopefully things will continue in that same way, and I see no reason why they shouldn't.

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    Re: Gay marriage: MPs debate and vote, The Ayes have it!

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    Civil unions for homosexual couples only do create a second class, where the "morally superior" option is only available to a certain group of people.
    I think I've stated this before, and it might sound very contradictory, but I disagree that Civil Partnerships are a second-rate version of marriage. I know that's not what you were arguing, but many have done. Personally, much as I applaud this decision because it applies equality across the queer-breeder divide, I'd rather all civil partnership recognition was deemed Civil Partnership, not marriage. In Free Andalublue-stan there would be no state recognition of marriage. Marriage would be merely a term used by the religious for whatever they want to do, like a Bar Mitzvah or a Khitan. Separating out the civil from the religious would make more sense. And all vows ought to lose the "Till death us do part" bit. Get real! No one buys that guff any more.
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    Re: Gay marriage: MPs debate and vote, The Ayes have it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    We're 13 months into the relationship (as of today) and that has yet to be an issue. Hopefully things will continue in that same way, and I see no reason why they shouldn't.
    Here's a reason: you've always done it before and you think it is good. We're off topic, so no more Tigger talk here.

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    Re: Gay marriage: MPs debate and vote, The Ayes have it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    In as respectful a manner as possible, Star.... so far as I'm concerned people of your viewpoint don't have a soul. At least not one that is worth anything. I understand and fully accept that you probably feel the exact same way about me. That's fine. Nothing is going to change either of our viewpoints on this topic.
    Horrid sentiment, politely put. I don't know about YS, but I don't believe in the existence of the soul, so this doesn't worry me at all.
    I'm not a big believer in casual sex.
    It's been so long since I had it, and as a strict empiricist, I'm not sure I believe it any more either.
    We're 13 months into the relationship (as of today) and that has yet to be an issue. Hopefully things will continue in that same way, and I see no reason why they shouldn't.
    I sincerely hope that you manage to keep your destructive emotions in check, Tigger. You sound too happy to throw it away through a lack of self-restraint.
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    Re: Gay marriage: MPs debate and vote, The Ayes have it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    In as respectful a manner as possible, Star.... so far as I'm concerned people of your viewpoint don't have a soul. At least not one that is worth anything.
    This is the most despicable, hateful garbage I have ever seen you post. There is absolutely no basis in any human system of spirituality to claim that a person who disagrees with you has no soul, and not even the most hateful, spiteful, intolerant bigoted cesspit of a human religion thinks that refusing to enter a sham marriage makes a person's soul worthless.

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    Re: Gay marriage: MPs debate and vote, The Ayes have it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    This is the most despicable, hateful garbage I have ever seen you post.
    Then you obviously don't read a lot of what I post, Viktyr.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    There is absolutely no basis in any human system of spirituality to claim that a person who disagrees with you has no soul,.....
    It's not the act of disagreeing with me, but rather the position that the individuals holds, which in my mind relieves them of their spiritual foundation, Viktyr. The believe that marriage, or any form of relationship beyond friendship is appropriate in a same-sex manner is simply against the most basic tenants of humanity so far as I'm concerned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    ....and not even the most hateful, spiteful, intolerant bigoted cesspit of a human religion thinks that refusing to enter a sham marriage makes a person's soul worthless.
    Where have I ever suggested that anyone should enter a sham marriage?

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    Re: Gay marriage: MPs debate and vote, The Ayes have it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    This is the most despicable, hateful garbage I have ever seen you post. There is absolutely no basis in any human system of spirituality to claim that a person who disagrees with you has no soul, and not even the most hateful, spiteful, intolerant bigoted cesspit of a human religion thinks that refusing to enter a sham marriage makes a person's soul worthless.
    I've no idea what religious beliefs Tigger would lay claim to, but they're virtually heretical to any faith I'm aware of. Maybe Tiggerism is like a form of Calvinism in which only Tigger is predestined for salvation.
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    Re: Gay marriage: MPs debate and vote, The Ayes have it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Then you obviously don't read a lot of what I post, Viktyr.
    You seem to be implying that your views are despicable. I am inclined to agree.

    Perhaps you should see to that.

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    Re: Gay marriage: MPs debate and vote, The Ayes have it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Civil unions for homosexual couples only do create a second class, where the "morally superior" option is only available to a certain group of people.
    As long as there is no legal difference between the two groups.. then the "morally superior" can stick it in a place the sun dont shine.
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