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    EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americans

    EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americans - Open Channel

    By Michael Isikoff
    National Investigative Correspondent, NBC News
    A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the U.S. government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force” -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S.
    The 16-page memo, a copy of which was obtained by NBC News, provides new details about the legal reasoning behind one of the Obama administration’s most secretive and controversial polices: its dramatically increased use of drone strikes against al-Qaida suspects, including those aimed at American citizens, such as the September 2011 strike in Yemen that killed alleged al-Qaida operatives Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan. Both were U.S. citizens who had never been indicted by the U.S. government nor charged with any crimes.

    The secrecy surrounding such strikes is fast emerging as a central issue in this week’s hearing of White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan, a key architect of the drone campaign, to be CIA director. Brennan was the first administration official to publicly acknowledge drone strikes in a speech last year, calling them “consistent with the inherent right of self-defense.” In a separate talk at the Northwestern University Law School in March, Attorney General Eric Holder specifically endorsed the constitutionality of targeted killings of Americans, saying they could be justified if government officials determine the target poses “an imminent threat of violent attack.”

    “This is a chilling document,” said Jameel Jaffer, deputy legal director of the ACLU, which is suing to obtain administration memos about the targeted killing of Americans. “Basically, it argues that the government has the right to carry out the extrajudicial killing of an American citizen. … It recognizes some limits on the authority it sets out, but the limits are elastic and vaguely defined, and it’s easy to see how they could be manipulated.”
    In particular, Jaffer said, the memo “redefines the word imminence in a way that deprives the word of its ordinary meaning.”
    How far can the government go? What happens if they find that this situation within the continental US? Where could this go?
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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Liberals can get away with murder. Literally! They have the media in their pocket. No check and balance needed when there's a Democrat in the White House.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

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    How far can the government go? What happens if they find that this situation within the continental US? Where could this go?
    The only way I would even rationally consider this is if it were strictly restricted for known gang members/gang leaders.

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    I'd like to think this couldn't happen here, but I have a little bit of concern that we are heading down a slippery slope. It didn't just start. It started with local police buying and obtain surplus military equipment. And not he govt is all over the idea of limiting fire arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    The only way I would even rationally consider this is if it were strictly restricted for known gang members/gang leaders.
    They dont get due process?

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

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    How far can the government go? What happens if they find that this situation within the continental US? Where could this go?
    If anything is worthy of impeachment, this might be. Murder is a high crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    If anything is worthy of impeachment, this might be. Murder is a high crime.
    Well we aren't there yet.
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    Brennan was the first administration official to publicly acknowledge drone strikes in a speech last year, calling them “consistent with the inherent right of self-defense.”
    So drone strikes are part of an inherent right to self defense but owning an "assault" rifle isn't?

    Ok, where can I purchase a drone? I'll take two w/ Sidewinder's please

    How far can the government go? What happens if they find that this situation within the continental US? Where could this go?
    As far as it wants. It's no chore really, if you are this government and you break the law, well you find someone who will sit their straight faced and reinterprete the meanings of words or you just go on ahead and change the law all together.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we see a drone strike on US soil within the next 10 years.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    They dont get due process?
    That depends. Are they shooting to kill?

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