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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if someone is involved with the enemy of my nation - regardless of their place of birth - they have become an enemy target
    whether by drone or other military weapon

    surprised so many of the reich wing are opposed to our military's eradicating enemy forces
    You think that's what's being discussed here? And something else, don't think that the drone will know you were an Obama voter and let you off. If anything, it'll be a conservative at the joystick zeroing on you.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Obama is just continuing a policy that Bush started and the right supported when Bush was in office. Now that a Dem is in charge, people seem to think differently.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't support it, but I didn't support it under Bush either while many on the right did.
    I never supported Bush's tyrannical nonsense. When Bush signed the Patriot Act I knew that it was going to be abused and that it was nothing more than precedence for more tyrannical "legislation."

    No one can blame Bush for any of this, I don't believe Bush's intent was nefarious, however it certainly was misguided because he opened the doors for tyrants like Obama to abuse it - and that was my concern since day one. Obama just want's to eradicate his dissenters in the United States, and dissenters of the progressive agenda entirely. Obama is creating precedence for a Stalinist totalitarian government.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I never supported Bush's tyrannical nonsense. When Bush signed the Patriot Act I knew that it was going to be abused and that it was nothing more than precedence for more tyrannical "legislation."

    No one can blame Bush for any of this, I don't believe Bush's intent was nefarious, however it certainly was misguided because he opened the doors for tyrants like Obama to abuse it - and that was my concern since day one. Obama just want's to eradicate his dissenters in the United States, and dissenters of the progressive agenda entirely. Obama is creating precedence for a Stalinist totalitarian government.
    That's a copout saying Bush's intentions were not for this sort of thing. His comment in regards to terrorism "You are either with us or against us" suggests otherwise. YOU yourself may not have supported what Bush did, but many on the right did. Obama is just continuing Bush's polcies.

    As for tyrant, puuuhhhlease, you are posting on the internet against OBama without sercret service knocking on your door. Yeah, some tyrant. Come back when you know what a REAL tyrant is. Save your hyperbole for some idiot conservative that doesn't know how to tei their shoes. You can start with the RNC.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I remember the support from the right that Bush had in dealing with terrorists. Some of the words by conservatives were along the lines of "collateral damage happens in war" and "War is hell, civilians die". Where is that same support from the right with Obama continuing the policies that many on the right supported Bush on?
    Probably because Barrack Obama has a history of failed policies and is an inexperienced and unworthy President.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if someone is involved with the enemy of my nation - regardless of their
    place of birth - they have become an enemy target
    whether by drone or other military weapon

    surprised so many of the reich wing are opposed to our military's eradicating enemy forces
    Wow, did you have that much trust in the Bush administration ?

    All of the BS "war crimes" nonsense you libs went on and on about, all of the Halliburton nonsense, "blood for oil etc...

    The nonsense over enhanced interogation.

    NOW a lib President has justified killing Americans without due process, and your all for it.

    Fantastic. You folks wanted to give due process to the 9/11 conspirators. Give enemy combatants Miranda Rights.

    Could you guys be any more hypocritical ?

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I remember the support from the right that Bush had in dealing with terrorists. Some of the words by conservatives were along the lines of "collateral damage happens in war" and "War is hell, civilians die". Where is that same support from the right with Obama continuing the policies that many on the right supported Bush on?
    I don't at all disagree with the use of drones in "war" in "war zones" and against troops or those who are attacking your forces or allied forces - most on the right share that view, regardless of who is President.

    I'm not aware that the US or its allies are at war with Pakistan, but perhaps it's a silent/secret war that only the administration is aware of. Yemen is an entirely different story - America is definitely not at war with Yemen and a drone strike was used to kill an American citizen and his American citizen son. Since Obama and his Attorney General were spewing platitudes about providing detainees in Guantanamo with due process and access to American courts, it seems odd that these American citizens in Yemen, one an innocent child, didn't get due process or access to the courts, they got Presidential execution. You're okay with that?

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No, they didn't take him in with the claim he had caused the attack on Benghazi. The guy violated his parole by making the film in the first place.
    Right! Is that why six armed and uniformed police (along with the media) came to his home in the middle of the night to arrest him? For going on the Internet and thereby violating parole?

    Is the US President and Sec. of State now going to get involved in every parole violation??? That should be something to watch!

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Actually I think that is usually what happens when you break parole. Well maybe not the media.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Right! Is that why six armed and uniformed police (along with the media) came to his home in the middle of the night to arrest him? For going on the Internet and thereby violating parole?

    Is the US President and Sec. of State now going to get involved in every parole violation??? That should be something to watch!
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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't at all disagree with the use of drones in "war" in "war zones" and against troops or those who are attacking your forces or allied forces - most on the right share that view, regardless of who is President.

    I'm not aware that the US or its allies are at war with Pakistan, but perhaps it's a silent/secret war that only the administration is aware of. Yemen is an entirely different story - America is definitely not at war with Yemen and a drone strike was used to kill an American citizen and his American citizen son. Since Obama and his Attorney General were spewing platitudes about providing detainees in Guantanamo with due process and access to American courts, it seems odd that these American citizens in Yemen, one an innocent child, didn't get due process or access to the courts, they got Presidential execution. You're okay with that?
    Nope, I'm not ok with that, but that is where Bush established his policies that have allowed this.

    And actually Afghanistan wasn't a war zone until we made it one. You remember why we went there right? Because the Taliban were harboring Al-Qaeda. Pakistan basically did the same thing. So if you liked what Bush did, you are hypocritical if you are now complaining about what OBama is doing.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Probably because Barrack Obama has a history of failed policies and is an inexperienced and unworthy President.
    So you are against anything Obama regardless of whether Bush did it and most righties supported it as well. Got it.

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