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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

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    Obama could shoot Michelle on public TV and liberals would reelect him. Obama can do no wrong. They are absolutely drunk on this guy.
    What do you think about the Democrats going after this issue with Obama?

    In a sign that the hearing had focused intense scrutiny on the drone program, Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., told reporters after the hearing that she thinks it may be time to lift the secrecy off the program so that U.S. officials can acknowledge the strikes and correct what she said were exaggerated reports of civilian casualties.

    Feinstein said she and a number of other senators are considering writing legislation to set up a special court system to regulate drone strikes, similar to the one that signs off on government surveillance in espionage and terror cases.

    Speaking with uncharacteristic openness about the classified program, Feinstein said the CIA had allowed her staff to make more than 30 visits to the CIA's Langley, Va., headquarters to monitor strikes, but that the transparency needed to be widened.

    "I think the process set up internally is a solid process," Feinstein said, but added: "I think there's an absence of knowing exactly who is responsible for what decision. So I think we need to look at this whole process and figure a way to make it transparent and identifiable."......snip~

    What do you think of the Idea of a Special Court?

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

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    Remember what our Mothers told us about hanging out with the wrong crowd? Stay away from AQ senior leadership if you dont want bad stuff to happen to you, like get vaporized.
    Fewer than 50 strikes took place during the Bush administration, while more than 360 strikes have been launched under Obama, according to the website The Long War Journal, which tracks the operations.....snip~

    Especially under Obama where drone strikes have increased 3 times more under his watch while his costs triple as well.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Fewer than 50 strikes took place during the Bush administration, while more than 360 strikes have been launched under Obama, according to the website The Long War Journal, which tracks the operations.....snip~

    Especially under Obama where drone strikes have increased 3 times more under his watch while his costs triple as well.
    and who would ever have imagined doing three times as much of something would also increase the costs three fold
    that damn Obama [/s]
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    I am not quite sure the point of this, maybe Bush did not have as good intel, he never got OBL. If you are trying to point out a difference in morals less than 50 times is still quite a few if you think it is wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Fewer than 50 strikes took place during the Bush administration, while more than 360 strikes have been launched under Obama, according to the website The Long War Journal, which tracks the operations.....snip~

    Especially under Obama where drone strikes have increased 3 times more under his watch while his costs triple as well.
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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

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    and who would ever have imagined doing three times as much of something would also increase the costs three fold
    that damn Obama [/s]
    Well we are talking there are Obamabots out there and for some reason. They think their MAN can do no wrong and that all he utters out that mouth Is ABSOLUTE TRUTH. So lets not confuse them over real numbers.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I am not quite sure the point of this, maybe Bush did not have as good intel, he never got OBL. If you are trying to point out a difference in morals less than 50 times is still quite a few if you think it is wrong.
    Well other than Obama having more foreign complicity than Bush. Not so much the issue over Morals.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I am not quite sure the point of this, maybe Bush did not have as good intel, he never got OBL. If you are trying to point out a difference in morals less than 50 times is still quite a few if you think it is wrong.

    Well, it is a point. I am not so sure about some miraculous increase in the validity of intel from the last administration to this one. And it should be noted that the killing of OBL was at least in some part creditable to both administrations. As far as morals go, I don't believe I ever heard of Bush signing an order to kill American's based only on the administrations say so....Could you point that one out for me?
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    no, I was just trying to reply to MMC. He brought up the 50:300 ratio. I still think if we get a shot at senior AQ it is probably a good idea to take it, even if he is an American. I am thinking about it now though.
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, it is a point. I am not so sure about some miraculous increase in the validity of intel from the last administration to this one. And it should be noted that the killing of OBL was at least in some part creditable to both administrations. As far as morals go, I don't believe I ever heard of Bush signing an order to kill American's based only on the administrations say so....Could you point that one out for me?
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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

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    no, I was just trying to reply to MMC. He brought up the 50:300 ratio. I still think if we get a shot at senior AQ it is probably a good idea to take it, even if he is an American. I am thinking about it now though.
    Agreed, However, I do think that some sort of oversight through the courts, like say FISA, or congress say the Intel, or Foreign Relations committees should be in the loop, and have to agree before allowing the summary killing of an American.

    Please understand, if an American turns coat, and actively plots against America, or her citizens, then we have to consider them as part of the enemy force, and they deserve the consequences....I am extremely uneasy though about the vague language concerning this in the most recent order from the WH. It is vague enough, and without oversight as to open the door to targeting not only those overseas, but at some point you can see some crazy scenario where it could be used on our own shores.
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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americ

    I think we pretty much agree on this one. I think maybe who is in the white house makes you a bit more distrustful than me, but I can see your point. If it really only applies to senior AQ and stays that way, it is probably a good thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Agreed, However, I do think that some sort of oversight through the courts, like say FISA, or congress say the Intel, or Foreign Relations committees should be in the loop, and have to agree before allowing the summary killing of an American.

    Please understand, if an American turns coat, and actively plots against America, or her citizens, then we have to consider them as part of the enemy force, and they deserve the consequences....I am extremely uneasy though about the vague language concerning this in the most recent order from the WH. It is vague enough, and without oversight as to open the door to targeting not only those overseas, but at some point you can see some crazy scenario where it could be used on our own shores.
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