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Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

Well, I was speaking of, AHEM....YOU! YOU are the 'cultist' Joe....Maybe worse than a cultist....Have you found one peer reviewed article that speaks of AGW as 'scientific theory' yet?




It's sad. He accepts this because someone told him to and he doesn't know that this is what defines a cultist.
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

Many, all linked. As one poster noted, you and he are playing a silly game. When scientist and organizations say they accept that that man plays a role in GW, they are doing what you ask for. But, sadly, you show your ignorance when you don't recognize this.

Anyway, it's not about us. It's about the science. And scientists who study this, and organizations of scientist who review this, nearly all support man contributing to GW.




And none of them will endorse it as a theory and none can provide a test that can be used to falsify the nation.
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

When the4 scientist says man contributed to GW, he's saying the same thing. Like I said, it's a game you guys are playing. And you have a ton of those links. The lie, is pretending that your game is meaningful.



How much warming has Man contributed during the last 10 years? As I understand, none of the causal factors have been reduced in that period of time.
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

Something I always tell you:

Through content analysis of US prestige press—meaning the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, and the Wall Street Journal—this paper focuses on the norm of balanced reporting, and shows that the prestige press's adherence to balance actually leads to biased coverage of both anthropogenic contributions to global warming and resultant action.

Balance as bias: global warming and the US prestige press

In other words, giving equal treatment to misinformation is bias itself. ;)

More:

Subjects had a poor appreciation of the facts that (1) if significant global warming occurs, it will be primarily the result of an increase in the concentration of carbon dioxide in the earth's atmosphere, and (2) the single most important source of additional carbon dioxide is the combustion of fossil fuels, most notably coal and oil. In addition, their understanding of the climate issue was encumbered with secondary, irrelevant, and incorrect beliefs. Of these, the two most critical are confusion with the problems of stratospheric ozone and difficulty in differentiating between causes and actions specific to climate and more general good environmental practice.

What Do People Know About Global Climate Change? 2. Survey Studies of Educated Laypeople - Read - 2006 - Risk Analysis - Wiley Online Library

47 Social Problems 2000 Challenging Global Warming as a Social Problem: An Analysis of the Conservative Movement's Counter-Claims




You know, you needn't get all that exotic to find a reason why people don't buy into this fantasy.

People don't accept it because it's not real.

You can stop trying to prove why people don't accept that the fantasy is reality. Just prove that it's not fantasy.
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

yes, it is. It acknowledges the theory. It isn't a football game or a potato. You'll do anything to avoid the truth of the issue. But I posted more for you anyway. ;)




You have posted empty rhetoric.

You're all hat and no cattle.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global ...

If you don't get it, you won't understand without a basic science education, which I can't provide here.

If you did have a basic science education, you either forgot it all or are being deliberately dishonest. Neither of those things are fixable here, either.




How would a basic science education explain both that the activities of Man are causing warming and that the globe is cooling and has been for more than 10 years?
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

Well, more that it is confused. the same tactics you embrace were used to cloud the smoking issue. Which does prove you can fool some people all the time. ;)



Actually, the tactics used by the tobacco industry are the tactics used by the Diehards.

Try citing actual real world results and you might actually convert the doubters.

As it is, you allow every question to go unanswered and provide no proof of your position.
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

No dancing. They accept the theory. Period. Only you are confused.



Accept that which does not exist.

This is the root of the problem.
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

I think it is natural to focus on what you can control. It's one thing to have something occurring naturally, a cow. it's another to have something created that contributes.



And you claim to be able to control the climate.

Seriously?
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

Do you really think a cow is equal to a car? Really?

In terms of producing greenhouse gases and both having been created largely to serve man yes. But that is simply looking at those two items in isolation, factor in the massive land clearing for pasture conversion, the erosion and many other less than ideal related ecological/agricultural practices and cars may be seen as a big winner, environmentally. Do you have to feed your car even if you don't drive it that day? Can you save beef by burger pooling? We have reduced vehicle emissions significantly while cow emissions are on the rise. Brazil is not being deforested in order to make cars.
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

In terms of producing greenhouse gases and both having been created largely to serve man yes. But that is simply looking at those two items in isolation, factor in the massive land clearing for pasture conversion, the erosion and many other less than ideal related ecological/agricultural practices and cars may be seen as a big winner, environmentally. Do you have to feed your car even if you don't drive it that day? Can you save beef by burger pooling? We have reduced vehicle emissions significantly while cow emissions are on the rise. Brazil is not being deforested in order to make cars.


I do believe people are trying to lesson deforestation in Brazil.

So, it's not like anyone is arguing hate cars and love deforestation. Cows weren't invented yesterday, and they live. Cars don't. It's not a good comparison.

It's also a distraction. No matter what we do r don't do, the science is still the science.
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

I do believe people are trying to lesson deforestation in Brazil.

So, it's not like anyone is arguing hate cars and love deforestation. Cows weren't invented yesterday, and they live. Cars don't. It's not a good comparison.

It's also a distraction. No matter what we do r don't do, the science is still the science.

No, the science was shown to you: cows contribute as much or more than cars do to greenhouse gasses. What you refuse to acknowedge is that the agenda is the agenda when it comes to AGW: IC cars are bad but IC cows are OK.
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

No, the science was shown to you: cows contribute as much or more than cars do to greenhouse gasses. What you refuse to acknowedge is that the agenda is the agenda when it comes to AGW: IC cars are bad but IC cows are OK.

Your logic is not sound.

Conservatives have an agenda: keep oil and business going regardless of cost.

Liberals have an agenda: protect the environment.

Science is science.

As noted, no one is for deforestation. Cows live.
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

Your logic is not sound.

Conservatives have an agenda: keep oil and business going regardless of cost.

Liberals have an agenda: protect the environment.

Science is science.

As noted, no one is for deforestation. Cows live.

I think you need to reword your caricaturization of the two different agendas.

Conservatives keep America working and create jobs.

Liberals want to protect the environment regardless of the cost to the American people and their jobs.

That is exactly what Obama is doing with his liberal environmental policies, the hell with the jobs, just stop that coal from burning.
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

I think you need to reword your caricaturization of the two different agendas.

Conservatives keep America working and create jobs.

Liberals want to protect the environment regardless of the cost to the American people and their jobs.

That is exactly what Obama is doing with his liberal environmental policies, the hell with the jobs, just stop that coal from burning.

Point is, the science isn't either one of them.

And Obama has nothing to do with this discussion.
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

Point is, the science isn't either one of them.

That is where your wrong, Liberals use science as a way to push their agenda even though its bogus science. Al Boor made a fortune pushing his bogus science.
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

Your logic is not sound.

Conservatives have an agenda: keep oil and business going regardless of cost.

Liberals have an agenda: protect the environment.

Science is science.

As noted, no one is for deforestation. Cows live.



You say the science is the science.

You say you don't understand the science. This seems to undermine any authority we should assign to your previous statement.

You say you believe what you are told because people have told you to believe what you are told on topics that you don't understand. Are there other things you accept as a matter of faith?
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

That is where your wrong, Liberals use science as a way to push their agenda even though its bogus science. Al Boor made a fortune pushing his bogus science.

You should listen to what you just said. I certainly hope someone listens to science and uses it to guide decision. It's better than using any number of other self interest reasons.
 
UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

You should listen to what you just said. I certainly hope someone listens to science and uses it to guide decision. It's better than using any number of other self interest reasons.

I hope you have money in the failed Chicago climate credit exchange, Al Gore needs the money since he sold his network to big oil....:)
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

I hope you have money in the failed Chicago climate credit exchange, Al Gore needs the money since he sold his network to big oil....:)

I'm never sure why you think these things matter to me. :shrug:
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

Point is, the science isn't either one of them.

And Obama has nothing to do with this discussion.



Under who's authority does the EPA Operate?
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

Under who's authority does the EPA Operate?

Which has nothing to do with the science, which is this discussion.
 
Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

You should listen to what you just said. I certainly hope someone listens to science and uses it to guide decision. It's better than using any number of other self interest reasons.

True proven science yes, not bogus science like the liberal like to use to push their false agenda. Al Boor is an excellent example. Obama is another one, I have always said Liberals are not for jobs, never have been. Kill Keystone, oil, and coal and they think the economy will prosper. And on top of that, liberals want to raise taxes. No wonder the middle class are making less now under Obama than before Obama. Damn almost forgot, then add in job killing Obamacare another job killer and tax increase. You have to wonder what science did the liberals use to come up with job killing Obamacare.
 
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