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Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

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My favorite is the not yet released 5th Assessment that predicts a temperature increase over the next century of between 1 and 7 degrees.

Seriously? 1 and 7 degrees?

Why not give yourself some wiggle room?

These things more than anything else the AGW cultists are pushing questionably, should be laughed out of the arena. This absolutely shows that pursuing the carbon path is only a giant scheme to steal wealth, and redistribute it.
 
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Still have no credible responses, do you.

That's okay. The lack of evidence to present is only because there is none on your side of the argument to rebut this stuff.

The emoticons are very convincing, though.

Common sense is credible. Do you think there is a conflict of interest between the CEO of oil exploration companies writing "research" papers on whether or not Co2 is a problem which effects the future of his companies?
 
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Common sense is credible. Do you think there is a conflict of interest between the CEO of oil exploration companies writing "research" papers on whether or not Co2 is a problem which effects the future of his companies?

Not if both sides were being honest about the effects. The problem with an oil representative writing an opinion is in direct proportion to progressive attack on his/her industry, and lively hood. If you could ever separate the science from the political agenda at this point, you'd probably have a more cooperative situation between the two, but in this day and age not likely.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Not if both sides were being honest about the effects. The problem with an oil representative writing an opinion is in direct proportion to progressive attack on his/her industry, and lively hood. If you could ever separate the science from the political agenda at this point, you'd probably have a more cooperative situation between the two, but in this day and age not likely.

Oh so he just has to lie to counter "progressive lies"? What if the scientists aren't lying... but he is...
 
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Oh so he just has to lie to counter "progressive lies"? What if the scientists aren't lying... but he is...


We have proof that the scientists are conspiring to cover up their lies, what proof do you have that the opposition opinion writer is lying?
 
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We have proof that the scientists are conspiring to cover up their lies, what proof do you have that the opposition opinion writer is lying?

Oh wow that escalated quickly. We're gonna stop right here, you win. I'm not going to spar you in fantasy land where you claim all the climate scientists are part of a worldwide conspiracy.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Oh wow that escalated quickly. We're gonna stop right here, you win.

That is probably a wise move on your part.
 
Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

"peer review" is corrupt, and broken...Means little today. But that you think that using logical fallacies is the way to win a debate, or is even an accepted method of proving your point is just plain sad.

Odd. Seems like it works quite well in every other scientific discipline except the one that has conclusions different from what you want them to be.

Wonder why?
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

Odd. Seems like it works quite well in every other scientific discipline except the one that has conclusions different from what you want them to be.

Wonder why?

Nah, don't try that crap here...We are talking about a specific area, and in this case there are many who agree that the peer review process is corrupted.
 
Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

Nah, don't try that crap here...We are talking about a specific area, and in this case there are many who agree that the peer review process is corrupted.

Right. The area where you don't like the conclusions. 'Many' agree...

Convenient.
 
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Right. The area where you don't like the conclusions. 'Many' agree...

Convenient.

I've posted, as well as others many articles, and discussions within the scientific community on this very thing...They are out there....But equally funny is how when you, or Boo posts this exact line of thinking favoring your argument, you like it, but when it is used against your argument all of the sudden it's unfair? Get real man.
 
Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

I've posted, as well as others many articles, and discussions within the scientific community on this very thing...They are out there....But equally funny is how when you, or Boo posts this exact line of thinking favoring your argument, you like it, but when it is used against your argument all of the sudden it's unfair? Get real man.

Not nearly as funny as accepting peer review in only the scientific disciplines that happen to agree with your pre-formed conclusions.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

Not nearly as funny as accepting peer review in only the scientific disciplines that happen to agree with your pre-formed conclusions.

Well, you'd have a point if you can show where I have done that, and link the comment, or post that proves your claim, other than that it is yet another strawman argument you are building here, and thus dismissed.
 
Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

"peer review" is corrupt, and broken...Means little today. But that you think that using logical fallacies is the way to win a debate, or is even an accepted method of proving your point is just plain sad.

To answer your last post...
 
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To answer your last post...

This is silly. Circular logic is a fail...I look forward to debating any legitimate point you have you'd like to make, but this is fruitless, and I have no interest in being derailed from the topic, so please get back on topic and we can talk.
 
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"peer review" is corrupt, and broken...Means little today. But that you think that using logical fallacies is the way to win a debate, or is even an accepted method of proving your point is just plain sad.

You say that because your biases won't allow you to see clearly. Have you every wondered why everything that contradicts you is biased or corrupt. Ever consider it's yourlogic and bias is the problem.
 
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I have presented a scientific paper that says that the incremental green house effect of CO2 diminishes as the incremental concentration of CO2 increases. You have not addressed this. Please present even one scientific source that says that the green house effect of CO2 does not diminish as the concentration increases.

By the way, you have presented evidence that there are many who vaguely endorse a vague and poorly defined notion of some things they really do not specify.

How about this one for the diminishing effect of CO2:

http://www.davidarchibald.info/papers/Past-and-Future-of-Climate.pdf
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Figure 28: The logarithmic heating effect of carbon dioxide
Can global warming from increased atmospheric carbon dioxide save us from the coming decline in mid-latitude agricultural production? Not at all. The first thing to be aware of is that the warming effect of carbon dioxide is strongly logarithmic. Of the three degrees that carbon dioxide contributes to the greenhouse effect, the first 20 ppm has a greater effect than the following 400 ppm. By the time we get to the current level of 388 ppm, each 100 ppm increment will produce only about 0.1 degrees of warming.
If the atmospheric carbon dioxide level continued rising at about 2 ppm per annum, temperature will rise at 0.1°C every fifty years. Global warming due to carbon dioxide is real, but it is also minuscule. Carbon dioxide is tuckered out as a greenhouse gas. Very little can be expected of it from here.
This graph was generated by using the Modtran site maintained by the University of Chicago.
<snip>

The graph referenced is on page 38 of the link. The same on used by Nova and is created by the University of Chicago. JoNova reduces things to very common language.

The thing about real science is that it it is based on things that work the same way all the time.

The thing about AGW Science is that it changes whenever the agenda demands it change.

:lamo:lamo:lamo

Everything you don't agree with is an agenda. This is just too silly.
 
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You say that because your biases won't allow you to see clearly.

That's your opinion...Sorry not everyone agrees.

Have you every wondered why everything that contradicts you is biased or corrupt.

Never said anything close to that...But, you sound more like you are projecting again, and using a strawman argument to do so.

Ever consider it's yourlogic and bias is the problem.

I guess we will have to wait about 500 years to see if your predictions come true, and even then it may not be conclusive....Al Gore will just have to accept that he can't create a fiat currency and control the world....
 
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That's your opinion...Sorry not everyone agrees.



Never said anything close to that...But, you sound more like you are projecting again, and using a strawman argument to do so.



I guess we will have to wait about 500 years to see if your predictions come true, and even then it may not be conclusive....Al Gore will just have to accept that he can't create a fiat currency and control the world....

Yeah, it is close to that. The overwhelming majority of scientist have spoken. I've linked them, and shown the lie in your link.
 
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Yeah, it is close to that. The overwhelming majority of scientist have spoken. I've linked them, and shown the lie in your link.

:roll: That's crap...As much as you'd like it to be the debate on this to be closed, it is a long way from settled.



Krauthamer [sic] has it right.
 
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:roll: That's crap...As much as you'd like it to be the debate on this to be closed, it is a long way from settled.



Krauthamer [sic] has it right.


So is he a scientist or a political ideologue? I use scientist, and you use a commentator. Tell me about agenda again.
 
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You say that because your biases won't allow you to see clearly. Have you every wondered why everything that contradicts you is biased or corrupt. Ever consider it's yourlogic and bias is the problem.

Apparently, he believes in the old Fitzgerald quote "the test of a first rate mind is to be able to hold row opposing ideas and the same time as true and still have the ability to function."
 
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Common sense is credible. Do you think there is a conflict of interest between the CEO of oil exploration companies writing "research" papers on whether or not Co2 is a problem which effects the future of his companies?



Common sense is a part of science, but is not proof of anything.

Where is your proof that the stuff the forms the basis of AGW Science is anything more than a set of possibilities that may or may not be right?
 
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:lamo:lamo:lamo

Everything you don't agree with is an agenda. This is just too silly.



You and Verax seem incapable of presenting proof to support the Science of AGW.

You both are careful to post emoticons.

I suppose you use what you have.
 
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Odd. Seems like it works quite well in every other scientific discipline except the one that has conclusions different from what you want them to be.

Wonder why?



Perhaps because they all seem to agree that something is absolutely correct unless they are asked to classify it as a Scientific Theory and suddenly their professional reputation is called to question and they vanish like their funding would if they lined up against the party line.

Show me the Science organization that has classed this as a Scientific Theory.
 
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