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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I've given more than one link dealing with it. Each can be followed to answer those questions.


    There was only one question. Post the link to the survey that has you so convinced and show what the survey asked, what the responses were and so on.

    Only one answer is needed for this request.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, you are supposed to follow the rules.....

    Here read up.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wow, the nerve....You have the absolute gall to talk about what others read, or don't read that you post links to, that can span from a simple article of opinion that you agree with, to some big study that contains one line in a hundred pages that supports your belief, but you won't post the relevant point. That is pure obfuscation on your part, trying to make yourself seem scholarly when presenting your blind faith in AGW.

    You then dismiss anything offered on the opposing argument without even reading it yourself, or in simpler terms when a video is given, and all you have to do is watch it and you don't but instead comment on it attacking the person talking, in this case a commentator, Krauthammer, which I would stand up against you in a debate any minute, of any day of the week, and failing to hear whom he was talking about, or addressing the person, showing your ignorance.

    BTW, the person he spoke of Freeman Dyson, probably one of the smartest people on the planet, and an Obama supporter himself for your information...A little background for you....



    Now the man speaking himself....



    There, both medium's for you print, and video. Now read, and watch before commenting Joe, and try to give an intelligent retort please. Thank you.

    I "liked" this one. I wish there was a "Liked to the 3rd power" for a post as comprehensive as this one.

    If this was a fight, pulling out a post like this would be illegal and cruel.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    yes, he's a bright fellow. But you'd demonize him if he said the opposite. His only attraction to you is he says what you want heard. He still doesn't represent the entire community, not even close. And he is not the only smart fellow in the room.

    You should always seek a rebuttal:

    Of course, models have been tested against the real world (both today's and eons ago's) and many of Dyson's other objections have been rebutted elsewhere. He also did not address the real world impacts already observed: ice melt, sea level rise, ocean acidification and more. His main concern seems to be that worrying about climate change distracts from more important problems such as poverty and infectious disease. Many might note that poverty (the inundation of Bangladesh) and infectious disease (improved conditions for transmission) are also problems exacerbated by climate change.

    But Dyson's purpose seems to be to throw out "heretical" ideas that can then spur further debate. (As even he would admit, his heresies are a little more grounded in the real world when he's talking about nuclear weapons. Before discussing climate change, he told a roomful of people who probably want to put former President Ronald Reagan on Mount Rushmore that the Great Communicator blew a real chance to rid the world of nuclear weapons in 1986 because he was too attached to the "Star Wars" missile defense program.) As he said: "I know a lot about nuclear weapons and nothing about climate change."

    News Blog: Freeman Dyson and the irresistible urge to be contrary about climate change

    So, J, I dismiss for reason and not arbitrarily. Can you actually read and listen?


    Astonishing.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Gravity acts on objects at the surface of the Earth.

    Are you saying this cannot be proven?
    Yes, nothing can be proven. It is possible that gravity just hasn't been proven wrong, yet.

    Do not confuse this with the likelihood that gravity is correct. Gravity is a fact because it is easily observed as true by any competent person. Again this doesn't "prove" it 100% We call things true, correct, a fact because of their track record, not because it is impossible to prove them wrong.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You never to read for comprehension. Always throwing in nonsense. No one is attacking his character. Only noting this isn't his area of expertise, something he admits to. Can't you even recognize this simple truth?


    Can you name someone who holds this as his area of expertise and justify that conclusion with examples of his work?
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You mean like they agree on science? J, you use that argument with anyone on anything. Including your side. The fact remains, these are scientist who largely take their professions seriously. They are not political ideologues on on a discussion site. The contempt someone you show for science has always amazed me.



    What science do they all agree on?

    I'm still waiting for this mythical survey you seem to think exists somewhere. Have you found it yet?
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    He calls himself a heretic, he revels in the title... If you actually knew anything about the man other than the cherry picked portrayal bullet points you've been fed, you would know that he doesn't dispute AGW. He doesn't dispute Co2's role as a greenhouse gas that is warming the planet. To re-iterate some of what Boo said, he just thinks it isn't as important or as big of a problem as the mainstream community does. He also thinks we'll be able to "techno" fix the problem in the future before it gets out of control.

    This is all a far cry from your partisan polemic understanding of what he represents as though he debunks the entire notion of AGW as junk science.



    So what he said is exactly what AGW Science says?
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    This is all nonsense that has been debunked throughout this thread. Along with code and j-mac you also do not understand science, at all.



    Why don't you post the silver bullet that will explain all of this?

    So far all you've done is rail about how smart you are and refrained from showing anyone why we should believe you.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    What science do they all agree on?

    I'm still waiting for this mythical survey you seem to think exists somewhere. Have you found it yet?
    The absolute most rudimentary research on climate change would net you answers to > 90% of the questions you ask on here. Your willful ignorance is not the responsibility of everyone else.

    Scientific opinion on climate change - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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