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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    No major scientific body in the world disagrees with the premise of AGW. Your antiscience paranoia is a regrettable side effect of your politics.


    What makes this especially distressing is that not one of them can prove it and not one of them has raised it to the level of being a theory.

    Do either of these points make you question your unflagging acceptance of this drivel?
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    False science was thrown up by both, often paid for by companies with an interest in clouding the issue.

    BTW, one of my links covered this.


    In this case though, the false science is provided by the AGW Diehards.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, I am glad you thought it was amusing....On the subject of so called Peer Review....It really means nothing as far as I understand it today.....

    Let's use the AGW cult for example, we'll call the Scientists involved the "Priests", and the believers of AGW, "the flock", and the politicians involved in the AGW scam are "the Bishops" for the purposes of this exercise....

    The priests want to get into a Journal with their paper espousing, and furthering the propaganda of the Bishop's pronouncements of AGW being real, and in need of catastrophic disaster if we the people don't let them have their way. So they write the propaganda, and submit it to other priests in the cult to look over and sign on to as being accurate so that the Journal will publish the article and give the Priest career prominence in their field....Some Journals actually charge a fee to do this...So, it can be a 'pay to play' system that has nothing to do with whether or not the actual topic is correct or not.

    So, they write the article, get their friends to say 'oh yeah, they are correct', and in some cases pay the magazine to publish it, and in turn they do the same for their friends whom publish articles...



    So, we have a flawed system that you are hanging your hat on here, known as "peer review", designed in a non political system to work, but as we know Climate Science has been politicized, and corrupted, making your academic exercise moot.



    When Peer Review is politicized it isn't just broken, it is corrupt.
    LOL...

    I finally watched this. I love the end...

    "I can just write for Scientific American."

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it really doesn't.
    Yeah. It really does. Your turn.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What an asinine statement....There are to date some 31,487 Scientists against your supposed non skeptical consensus....Here are just the A's
    Do I really have to show you again the list is BS. It's been debunked many times. Almost none of those scientist are actual signature. I've shown it, others have shown it, and despite those signatures saying, no we did not sign that, your side keeps posting it. And you wonder why I doubt you.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Well, this is exactly the same post again.

    What can you offer as evidence of this particular claim?

    Are you EVER going to make an assertion about AGW and support it with evidence?

    I guess I didn't know that you and I have met and know each other, but, okay, what part of the description of myself is not accurate?
    You saw none of the links I posted? Each supports my cliam.

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Yeah. It really does. Your turn.
    I like this! No, it really doesn't.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What an asinine statement....There are to date some 31,487 Scientists against your supposed non skeptical consensus....Here are just the A's
    For you j: (one more time)

    The 32,000 “leading” scientists — 9,000 saying they have Ph.D.s — come from a petition by the George C. Marshall Institute, an outfit funded by hundreds of thousands of dollars from Exxon-Mobil that has helped create uncertainty over scientific consensus on global warming. The petition came with a cover letter by Frederick Seitz, a scientist who received much money from the R.J. Reynolds cigarette company and helped to create uncertainty over medical consensus on the harms of tobacco smoke.

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    So what do actual climatologists think?

    Kelly Redmond, regional climatologist at Reno’s Desert Research Institute, told Fact Checker, “There seems little doubt that the earth as a whole is warming, based on separate evidence from the surface, the lower atmosphere and from satellites.”

    Asked if the main causes are human-related, he said, “Without invoking human-related influences, we are at a loss for mechanisms that can account for the observed warming.”

    He is far from alone. Not a single scientific organization of national or international standing denies that global warming is taking place.

    Peter T. Doran and Maggie Kendall Zimmerman from the University of Illinois-Chicago surveyed more than 3,000 world scientists, with more than 90 percent having Ph.D.s.
    They found that the vast majority of scientists said the earth is warming and human activity is a significant factor in global temperature changes. Among scientists specializing in and publishing peer-reviewed research in the field of climatology, the rate of consensus was about 97 percent for both questions.

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    In another instance that came out in court documents, a fossil-fuel-industry group called the Global Climate Coalition asked its scientists about global warming caused by human activity and they reported back, “The scientific basis … is well established and cannot be denied.”

    Not only that, its scientists concluded that those who were skeptical of global warming “do not offer convincing arguments.”

    Despite this internal document — similar to actions by the tobacco industry — the fossil fuel industry continued to sow confusion about climate change, until the coalition disbanded in 2002.

    http://www.rgj.com/article/20101228/...nclick_check=1

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-..._b_243092.html
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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I like this! No, it really doesn't.
    Me too. Yeah, it really does.

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Me too. Yeah, it really does.
    I could for awhile, but this will be last. No, it really doesn't.

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