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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I have no idea what this might mean. it looks like something from Star Wars. Is the big black spot a "cool" place on the Sun?
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I have no idea what this might mean. it looks like something from Star Wars. Is the big black spot a "cool" place on the Sun?
    It's a cool spot in the extreme UV range. The filter used for that is the EIT 284 filter. The EIT 284 filter sees the 28.4 nanometer spectral lines. Naturally, the yellow is a false color.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

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    When this is all said and done, the term "scientists" may be in question.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, I am glad you thought it was amusing....On the subject of so called Peer Review....It really means nothing as far as I understand it today.....

    Let's use the AGW cult for example, we'll call the Scientists involved the "Priests", and the believers of AGW, "the flock", and the politicians involved in the AGW scam are "the Bishops" for the purposes of this exercise....

    The priests want to get into a Journal with their paper espousing, and furthering the propaganda of the Bishop's pronouncements of AGW being real, and in need of catastrophic disaster if we the people don't let them have their way. So they write the propaganda, and submit it to other priests in the cult to look over and sign on to as being accurate so that the Journal will publish the article and give the Priest career prominence in their field....Some Journals actually charge a fee to do this...So, it can be a 'pay to play' system that has nothing to do with whether or not the actual topic is correct or not.

    So, they write the article, get their friends to say 'oh yeah, they are correct', and in some cases pay the magazine to publish it, and in turn they do the same for their friends whom publish articles...



    So, we have a flawed system that you are hanging your hat on here, known as "peer review", designed in a non political system to work, but as we know Climate Science has been politicized, and corrupted, making your academic exercise moot.



    When Peer Review is politicized it isn't just broken, it is corrupt.
    What is politicized is the denial effort. It's grounded in politics and not science. The science is just the science. Those not wanting to adhere to any consequences of the science prefer to muddy the water (remember the tobacco industry?).

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    bwhaaaaaa! Are you kidding here? You think that 'several' means seven? OMG! What the hell do you teach?

    Ahem....UM, Joe? "Several" means either separate, and or distinct, or more than two, but less than many....hahhahahahahahaha! OMG this is funny....
    Yep, read your definition. I didn't say seven. I said in that neighborhood, which would be "more than two but fewer than many."

    Try to respond without being too snarky.

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Yeah, it kinda does.
    No, it really doesn't.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    If the models produce accurate predictions, they would be a good proof that the science was a good science.

    The models are junk.

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    You went kind of nuts since last I was on. You're sources, however, are seriously suspect. And you really don't dispute my claim. Understand, the area we can best effect is our role, so it makes sense to address it. And it is also true that there is really no draw back to the plant if we harm her less. The fact that you seem to be pro pollution is something I've always found odd. But the fact remains, those who know the field, those who study it, those who are best able to answer the question disagree with you. The best you can do is pull from outliners.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You went kind of nuts since last I was on. You're sources, however, are seriously suspect. And you really don't dispute my claim. Understand, the area we can best effect is our role, so it makes sense to address it. And it is also true that there is really no draw back to the plant if we harm her less. The fact that you seem to be pro pollution is something I've always found odd. But the fact remains, those who know the field, those who study it, those who are best able to answer the question disagree with you. The best you can do is pull from outliners.


    You may suspect them, but at least I make a statement and then produce the link to back that statement up. This is something I have yet to see you do. Why not pick out any of the predictions from any of the sources listed and then demonstrate that in truth that listed projection is not an accurate representation of what they actually predicted?

    I am not pro pollution. In fact, just the opposite. Wherever possible, I conserve with the best of them for the reasons that are proven and can be demonstrated in the real world. It only makes sense to not crap where you eat.

    However, ascribing to fantasies like AGW does nothing for the effort to conserve. Did you know that the Catalytic Converter converts more exhaust into CO2 than was emitted prior to the CC? CO2 is bad and will destroy the planet. Catalytic Converters are good and will save the planet. Catalytic Converters create more CO2. What's wrong with this picture? Why does the government mandate the use of the converters which increase CO2 and the government also demands the reduction of CO2?

    The question of whether or not rising CO2 causes warming right now when it probably never has in the past few billion years around here is ludicrous and needs very specific and very definitive proof. In every example in the past, when the two are directly linked, CO2 rising has always been the effect of rising temperature, not the cause. There may have been three times in the geological record when it is likely that CO2 rose before Temperature rose, but, given the ongoing proven causality, those three or fewer examples may just have been a coincidence. In all cases, the CO2 reduced again fairly quickly and naturally.

    Again, when the exceptions are this rare, ample proof is required to demonstrate the reverse causation.

    I'm still waiting to see this presented. Whatcha got?
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yep, read your definition.
    Um, that would be Merriam-Webster who's definition it is....Just so we are accurate....

    I didn't say seven.
    You most certainly did, or accurately, "in the neighborhood of" meaning up to, and including....

    which would be "more than two but fewer than many."
    True, but it looked foolish....Most people consider "several" to be 3 as a general meaning...but this illustrates perfectly how you try so hard to use semantics to cover yourself. It really is a silly game you play often.

    Try to respond without being too snarky.
    Implying that you know that it was funny for you to say that so you expect to be mocked somewhat...But that aside, you really need to lighten up Joe, if the roles were reversed, as they have been in the past when I have said foolish things without thinking, you have no problem being "snarky" with me, so why should it be any different coming your way?
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