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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    again, there isn't a lot if them. They make up a very small percentage. They are the outliners.
    I will agree to that. However, facts make statistics. Statistics do not make facts.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    LOL...

    Great article... for a magazine that caters to laymen.

    A real scientific magazine would choose to enforce the terminology to be correct, instead of dumbing down.

    I used to love Scientific American, until I actually started to study real science.
    Doesn't change that they are correct.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Then you haven't looked. I've laid out if my claim, that there is a consensus, and to rebut his claim, that there is no solid evidence of GW and mans role.
    That's because consensus does not make a theory or law. Models that poorly support hypothesis do not support anything to the extent of real theories or scientific laws.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Doesn't change that they are correct.
    Well, considering how dumbed down out society is becoming, I don't know what to say to that.

    I often mix them up as well in casual conversation. We all my say " my theory is..." rather than using it correct scientifically. However, when we speak of scientific matters, it is absolutely incorrect to be so careless.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I will agree to that. However, facts make statistics. Statistics do not make facts.
    Didn't say they did. But we have to rely in the best science, and not the outliners. And as there has always been an answer from the consensus to the outliners, there's no logical reason to accept the out liners. Now, I know you're impressed with your own brilliance, but you must accept that others may not be. And they seek to learn, not teach, and to them the consensus matters.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    That's because consensus does not make a theory or law. Models that poorly support hypothesis do not support anything to the extent of real theories or scientific laws.
    Models are but one way. And they are a valid way.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Well, considering how dumbed down out society is becoming, I don't know what to say to that.

    I often mix them up as well in casual conversation. We all my say " my theory is..." rather than using it correct scientifically. However, when we speak of scientific matters, it is absolutely incorrect to call be so careless.
    Pits nit carelessness. Scientist merely mean something different than the lay person does, as the article noted. The scientist is not as uncertain when using the word as the lay person paints it.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    ...So you all tell me. I know that those willing, or wanting to mask the "ends" that they are for will attack me for using the Blaze as a source for the secondary piece, but agenda 21 is there for all to read...

    Agenda 21 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Read it, and do your own research, but this is probably the clearest sign that the UN is a dangerous to freedom, and needs to be dismantled.
    Agenda 21 is a completely voluntary action plan, we can pull out at anytime and it's completely non-binding. It's a PR stunt, not a law. Even if it was binding, when was the last time we actually did what the UN told us to do? What would they do to us, send us a mean letter?

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I've done that already, many times.


    Then you are the only one. There is not a scientific paper written anywhere that has proven this or AGW would be a Theory and it is still just a notion.

    You need to send this "proof" to the national Academy of Science.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Funny.

    I don't see consensus anywhere in that definition.

    What am I missing?


    That's the long and the short of it right there.

    The "Pal Review" process boys as you so accurately termed it in the recent past still can't bring themselves to accord this the Theory Level of recognition.

    Just another thing on which they all seem to agree.

    Why is it that they all agree that this the real deal and yet they all can't agree that this is the real deal?
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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