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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Anyone know if we have witness as large of a Coronal Hole in the sun, as the one we are witnessing since July?



    Link in above pic.

    another: NASA SOHO site

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Why would I do such a silly thing?

    Gravity has been quantified, and there is no dispute in the scientific community about it.

    How many scientists disagree with the values assigned to gravity? can you think of any?

    Several scientists dispute the warming values given to CO2.
    Seven compared to what, hundreds? Thousands?

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I already know there is a consensus. What exactly are they consenting to and what is the proof that the consensus is justified? Do they all agree there is some effect from CO2? The whole effect comes from CO2? What is the exact thing that they all are agreeing to?

    Why do you continue to repeat the same thing over and over? Make one assertion and back it up with evidence.

    As an example, you could assert and demonstrate that CO2 is prime driver of climate or demonstrate exactly what contribution warming CO2 has. That's all I'm asking.

    Are you incapable of producing this?

    There are at least 50 forcing factors for warming and climate change. To quantify the effect of one, you must quantify the effect of all. For your first attempt, though, I will accept the definition of the quantity of the effect from only the effect of CO2.

    If you determine that CO2 is the prime driver of warming, please be prepared to explain why the warming stops and drops despite the continuous and constant rise of CO2.

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    As it is among scientist, who are scientist and not bakers, their consensus is on the science.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Seven compared to what, hundreds? Thousands?
    Seven disagree with the formula behind gravity/acceleration?

    I have a hard time believing that.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Seven disagree with the formula behind gravity/acceleration?

    I have a hard time believing that.
    Seven versus hundreds? Thousands?

    Btw several was your number, not mind. But no matter, the fact it is such a small number as to be serious outliners.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Seven versus hundreds? Thousands?

    Btw several was your number, not mind. But no matter, the fact it is such a small number as to be serious outliners.
    LOL...

    OK, you misread "several" for "seven."

    I guess you don't know seven who disagree with gravity after-all...

    I was really curious who they were.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    LOL...

    OK, you misread "several" for "seven."

    I guess you don't know seven who disagree with gravity after-all...

    I was really curious who they were.
    No, that's want the word means, in the area of seven.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As it is among scientist, who are scientist and not bakers, their consensus is on the science.

    What in the science are the consenting to? Do the all agree that CO2 is responsible for ALL of the warming? 75%? 50%? 25%? Do some think it's it's more like 75% while other s think it's more like 5%?

    You are saying they all agree but won't reveal what they are agreeing about.

    Do they all agree that the ocean is soaking up all the warming? Do they all agree that the CO2 is keeping radiation from escaping into space?

    You seem to think that you are saying something, but you are not.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I understand the language just find. But, when I want a car fixed, I consult a mechanic. I could listen to the waiter at Perkins, but I tend to use the mechanic. When I'm sick or injured I consult a doctor. I could ask cashier at Walmart, but I ask the doctor instead. And when I want to know about science, I consult scientist. I could listen to Rush, but I'm funny about thinking those who've actually studied something generally no more.

    I've seen all the rebuttals. Addressed a few here that were wild misrepresentations. Certainly if someone presented something that wasn't so easily shown to be silliness, you might have a case. But to think you're a true thinker while ignoring best evidence is akin to saying I'm a professional football player while ignoring I'm not aid to play for any team.


    Have you presented any evidence?
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    I know a bit about natural science and did an introductory amount of reading of climate science. That was all I needed to tear apart Planar's nonsense. It takes a little while you have to do some research but once you figure out what he's doing its just pathetic. You uses big terms, math, makes it all look really complicated and solid, like he knows what he's talking about. But once you break it down you will find he's just making crap up, absolutely ridiculous arguments that make no sense whatsoever.


    Why is every model prepared by every expert using the Science of AGW always wrong?
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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