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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And I've given you links that cover that.


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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    It appears he has no proof. I wonder if he will keep sidestepping.

    My first response to this thread is from post #2, not looking at the date and thinking this is an old thread. Excuse me if I am out of touch with previous posts.


    I don't know if he's sidestepping or just unaware of how this works. It's tiresome, though.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I don't know if he's sidestepping or just unaware of how this works. It's tiresome, though.
    Yep. These guys don't verify anything. They like some spoon fed quotes, and run with it as fact.

    Here are the two studies quoted in the AR5, but deleted from the post#2 edited quote:

    Long-term changes in the cosmic ray intensity at Earth, 1428–2005

    Relationship of Lower Troposphere Cloud Cover and Cosmic Rays: An Updated Perspective

    Here is comment on McCracken's paper by Leif Svalgaard:

    Comment on “The heliomagnetic field near Earth, 1428-2005”

    I haven't read these in their entirety, but they are weak material to use in the AR5 with all the disagreements on the topic, timelines, etc. Obviously cherry picked because the flavor of these cherries was liked.

    Warmers...

    If you are going to trust, please at least understand the source material. Please don't delete it so we can't find it.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I just jumped into this thread not realizing it's an older one.

    If this is about the climategate evidence, saying proof is it was innocent, that is bogus.

    Have there been any independent investigations?

    All the internal investigation I have seen are like the past, where the catholic churches, covering up child abuse.
    If truly independent, produce them. If denier slanted, don't. It won't hold up.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    That was a remark. Not evidence.
    Nor claimed as such. The evidence was provided earlier, none of which did he ever respond.

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    Last edited by Boo Radley; 08-09-13 at 07:54 PM.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Yawn...

    Do you realize you posted an alarmist blog article, statistics proven to be tainted, and an article with agenda?

    I'm pretty sure with the six degrees of separation theory, I can be linked to just about anyone.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Yawn...

    Do you realize you posted an alarmist blog article, statistics proven to be tainted, and an article with agenda?
    Do you realize that the data doesn't one from them, not to mention there are more than a few sites in this thread?

    Impacts of global warming

    Global Warming Causes, Climate Change Causes - National Geographic

    Balance as bias: global warming and the US prestige press

    http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&...20role&f=false
    Last edited by Boo Radley; 08-09-13 at 07:54 PM.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    OK, Please show me a quote that definitively proves CO2.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    OK, Please show me a quote that definitively proves CO2.

    You actually have that in one of the links already. But you can find many:


    So in effect, carbon dioxide lets the light energy in, but doesn't let all of the heat energy out, similar to a greenhouse.

    Currently, the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is increasing at the rate of about one part per million per year. If this continues, some meteorologists expect that the average temperature of the earth will increase by about 2.5 degrees Celsius. This doesn't sound like much, but it could be enough to cause glaciers to melt, which would cause coastal flooding.

    8/31/94 - How does carbon dioxide cause global warming?

    The evolution of the Earth's climate has been extensively studied1, 2, and a strong link between increases in surface temperatures and greenhouse gases has been established3, 4. But this relationship is complicated by several feedback processes—most importantly the hydrological cycle—that are not well understood5, 6, 7. Changes in the Earth's greenhouse effect can be detected from variations in the spectrum of outgoing longwave radiation8, 9, 10, which is a measure of how the Earth cools to space and carries the imprint of the gases that are responsible for the greenhouse effect11, 12, 13. Here we analyse the difference between the spectra of the outgoing longwave radiation of the Earth as measured by orbiting spacecraft in 1970 and 1997. We find differences in the spectra that point to long-term changes in atmospheric CH4, CO2 and O3 as well as CFC-11 and CFC-12. Our results provide direct experimental evidence for a significant increase in the Earth's greenhouse effect that is consistent with concerns over radiative forcing of climate.

    Increases in greenhouse forcing inferred from the outgoing longwave radiation spectra of the Earth in 1970 and 1997 : Abstract : Nature

    Report 5: How Do We Contribute to Global Warming?

    The Causes of Global Warming: A Global Warming FAQ | Union of Concerned Scientists

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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