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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Too be honest I'm past caring about and still don't really understand why the anti-global warming crowd get out of this argument. What do we have to lose by making our planet cleaner and stopping our reliance on fossil fuels ( which will run out anyway)???
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Too be honest I'm past caring about and still don't really understand why the anti-global warming crowd get out of this argument. What do we have to lose by making our planet cleaner and stopping our reliance on fossil fuels ( which will run out anyway)???
    the problem is "how" the AGWers want to go about it. I lost all faith in them when they came out with the carbon credits scam.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    the problem is "how" the AGWers want to go about it. I lost all faith in them when they came out with the carbon credits scam.
    how would you do it then?
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    how would you do it then?
    More to the point, what are YOU personally doing about it? Not trying to single you out, it's just that there are an awful lot of people screaming about something being done while they do nothing.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

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    Please cut and paste the silver bullet to which you refer.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    More to the point, what are YOU personally doing about it? Not trying to single you out, it's just that there are an awful lot of people screaming about something being done while they do nothing.
    I use energy saving lightbulbs, I have a compost heap, ride my bike/ take train to work, I drive a small economical car. Just to name a few.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Too be honest I'm past caring...
    I think at this point everyone is.....

    and still don't really understand why the anti-global warming crowd get out of this argument.
    What we get? How about not ceding our freedom to those control freaks that would use this faux crisis to redistribute wealth, and control the masses?

    What do we have to lose by making our planet cleaner and stopping our reliance on fossil fuels ( which will run out anyway)???
    I don't think that we are saying not to continue to make that which we use cleaner, this is a false argument, like when Obama says we want "dirtier air, and dirtier water..." It's pejorative, and wrong to categorize, and lie about your opponents like that.

    And then, as if it wasn't bad enough that you misrepresent the opposing argument as you did, then you right on cue throw out the long debunked 'peak oil' myth as if it is fact....

    Just know this, your progressive policy of choking this country off oil before you have the technology to replace that energy source is strangling this country, and hurting the people that your portend to want to help, and represent the most, the poor, and middle classes....So, good job.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I use energy saving lightbulbs...
    Good for you...They are mandated by law so you don't have a choice do you?

    I have a compost heap...
    Many people live in apartments and such that don't have that option...

    ride my bike...
    Fantastic...You young ones should stay healthy...I guess if you are unable to ride a bicycle then you're screwed eh?

    take train to work..
    What if there is no train service where you are? Not everyone lives in urban settings, and close to where they work?

    I drive a small economical car.
    So? Different people have different needs...If you are single, and have no need in most cases for an automobile, (as you already said you use your bike, and mass transit) then I would agree that it makes no sense for you to own a $30K to $40K car or truck....But that is YOUR choice isn't it? See that's the problem with freedom in your eyes isn't it? That you don't get to dictate what I should own right?

    Just to name a few.
    Do you think you are better than other people you see in the world based on what you see without knowing their circumstances? Because you know what that is right, and why it is a major fail?
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Good for you...They are mandated by law so you don't have a choice do you?



    Many people live in apartments and such that don't have that option...



    Fantastic...You young ones should stay healthy...I guess if you are unable to ride a bicycle then you're screwed eh?



    What if there is no train service where you are? Not everyone lives in urban settings, and close to where they work?



    So? Different people have different needs...If you are single, and have no need in most cases for an automobile, (as you already said you use your bike, and mass transit) then I would agree that it makes no sense for you to own a $30K to $40K car or truck....But that is YOUR choice isn't it? See that's the problem with freedom in your eyes isn't it? That you don't get to dictate what I should own right?



    Do you think you are better than other people you see in the world based on what you see without knowing their circumstances? Because you know what that is right, and why it is a major fail?

    I don't think i'm better than anyone just more considerate. If everyone made a couple of small changes to their lives it could be a much better planet that we leave our kids.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I don't think i'm better than anyone just more considerate. If everyone made a couple of small changes to their lives it could be a much better planet that we leave our kids.
    Ok, do you think that doing away with the energy sources that are proven now, and in use, for nothing that seems to be working now is prudent? Or would make life better?

    It is one thing to work toward energy that is cleaner, or more renewable etc....But to just say that we need to do that, and then do things that rise costs, make current energy less accessible, and have nothing that will replace what you are putting off limits, hurts people that can least afford it, and ends up tanking economies....
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