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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'm going to stop you right there.

    No it isn't. Literally nobody has ever argued that. Until you can grasp this concept, there's no point to this discussion because you aren't being honest. You're just sticking your head in the sand and completely ignoring the decades of work and billions of dollars spent on analyzing all sorts of other influences on climate.

    Why? Why are you doing that?


    Please tell me what the stated cause of Anthropogenic Global Warming is.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You may as well blame aging on humans next.....

    Like the climate will really stay the same? I suppose thats what the AGW crowed expects to happen. In their minds the climate has been the same and humans disrupted the "same" instead of a natural process that occurs ever 20,000-100,000 years or so, oh yeah all of this in spite of the geological record that shows us - and without question - this has happened at least 20 times....

    Now it's humans fault?
    Climate does change naturally. Nobody has ever said otherwise. However, you seem to either be under the impression that they are saying that. Either that, or you're under the impression that the fact that climate changes naturally means there's some magical barrier of physics that means humans cannot also have an influence.

    Is that the case? Can you clarify?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Please tell me what the stated cause of Anthropogenic Global Warming is.
    Anthropogenic Global Warming and natural variability are not mutually exclusive, and nobody has ever suggested that they are. (well, except perhaps some of the wackier "skeptics") Perhaps this will clear up the confusion for you. Humans can be causing a change in climate variables simultaneously with changes in natural variables.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Incidentally, CO2 isn't the only variables humans have influence on. There's also changes in albedo from particulates and soot, or land use changes. And the other greenhouse gases like methane.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    The blogger took the draft report out of context. That report states that some argue for a mechanism that amplifies solar forcing (a natural factor). However, subsequent paragraphs discount that hypothesis. The closing paragraph of that section of Chapter 7 states:

    Although there is some evidence that ionization from cosmic rays may enhance aerosol nucleation in the free troposphere, there is medium evidence and high agreement that he cosmic ray-ionization mechanism is too weak to influence global concentrations CCN or their change over the last century or during a solar cycle in any climatically significant way. The lack of trend in the cosmic ray intensity over the last 50 years provides another strong argument agains the hypothesis of a major contribution of cosmic rays to ongoing climate change.

    The draft document also notes in its summary for policymakers, "No robust association between changes in cosmic rays and cloudiness has been identified."

    In other words, once one reads the draft report's language in its full context, there is no "game-changing admission of enhanced solar forcing." The report does not reflect reduced confidence in AGW.
    This happens so many times. So many.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, surprise, surprise....Warming is caused by the sun.....Who'd have thunk it?.....

    So the question is, why would an international body like the UN be pushing so hard for man made climate change? The answer is in what few know about, called agenda 21.



    So you all tell me. I know that those willing, or wanting to mask the "ends" that they are for will attack me for using the Blaze as a source for the secondary piece, but agenda 21 is there for all to read...

    Agenda 21 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Read it, and do your own research, but this is probably the clearest sign that the UN is a dangerous to freedom, and needs to be dismantled.
    It just needs to be moved to France. And we need to stay here with our dollars.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Man-made global warming, Y2K, Swine Flu, the Mayan calendar, AIDS killing all heterosexuals, SARS, killer bees......

    The same people fall for the same crap every time.

    I still want to know what caused the man-made global warming in the dark ages.
    Maybe it was all that "dark". Dark absorbs the sun's rays and heats up warming the whole planet.

    Things are so much easier to understand when they are explained scientifically.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Anthropogenic Global Warming and natural variability are not mutually exclusive, and nobody has ever suggested that they are. (well, except perhaps some of the wackier "skeptics") Perhaps this will clear up the confusion for you. Humans can be causing a change in climate variables simultaneously with changes in natural variables.
    Can that theory be duplicated in controlled experiments, by a range of other scientists? Your insertion that those scientists that are at the least skeptical, and at the most debunking the theory of AGW, are "whacky" or any other derogatory terminology designed to denigrate dissent are indicators that the science is not science but politics.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Can that theory be duplicated in controlled experiments, by a range of other scientists? Your insertion that those scientists that are at the least skeptical, and at the most debunking the theory of AGW, are "whacky" or any other derogatory terminology designed to denigrate dissent are indicators that the science is not science but politics.
    I'll clarify, because you misunderstand. The whacky person is the one who thinks "climate changes naturally" automatically prevents humans from influencing climate. Nobody sane thinks that. Similarly, nobody sane thinks climate only changes from human activity, and this has never, ever been the argument of AGW proponents.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'll clarify, because you misunderstand. The whacky person is the one who thinks "climate changes naturally" automatically prevents humans from influencing climate. Nobody sane thinks that. Similarly, nobody sane thinks climate only changes from human activity, and this has never, ever been the argument of AGW proponents.
    Ok, I understand that, however, in most cases I see, it is any dissent that garners the "whacky" terminology or worse. In any case, there are a significant number of scientists that disagree that man's contribution, what ever that may be, is minute, and further that the earth has ways of controlling these additions. For instance, the eco system in oil seepage into the oceans for example. Oil spills get the headlines, but mother nature seeps millions of tons of oil into the worlds oceans every year, and the ocean deals with it. Now does that mean that we shouldn't worry about our contribution? no, just that this isn't about man's influence, but rather about control of man by government.
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