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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    From the Royal Astronomical Society:

    Did exploding stars help life on Earth to thrive?
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    Research by a Danish physicist suggests that the explosion of massive stars – supernovae – near the Solar System has strongly influenced the development of life. Prof. Henrik Svensmark of the Technical University of Denmark (DTU) sets out his novel work in a paper in the journal Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.

    Pleiades - smallAn image of the Pleiades (M45), a famous star cluster about 135 million years old. This age means that any massive stars in the cluster would have exploded as supernovae when ammonites were prominent in the sea. According to Henrik Svensmark, the rate of nearby supernovae strongly influenced the diversity of such marine invertebrates. Credit: NASA, ESA and AURA/CaltechWhen the most massive stars exhaust their available fuel and reach the end of their lives, they explode as supernovae, tremendously powerful explosions that are briefly brighter than an entire galaxy of normal stars. The remnants of these dramatic events also release vast numbers of high-energy charged particles known as galactic cosmic rays (GCR). If a supernova is close enough to the Solar System, the enhanced GCR levels can have a direct impact on the atmosphere of the Earth.
    Mmm, I think I'll stand by virtually EVERY scientific organization in the world in recognizing man-made global warming.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Now all he needs to establish is that cosmic rays have an effect, overcoming the solar magnetic field's protection. Once that's established, then he has only to establish that cosmic rays can seed low-level clouds and then that low-level clouds cause a long-term negative trend in climatic terms. Stand all those bottles in a row, and his research might have something to commend it.
    No, at this point all anyone 'has to do' is show that there are alternatives to the hysterical claims of rabid AGW proponents. All the wild claims, all the dismissal, all the mean spirited character assassination coming from the AGW proponents reminds of early Scientology.

    What's next? Al Gore going to have those of us dissenting visited by thugs that threaten our families if we don't go along with the fraudulent tax scheme?
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, at this point all anyone 'has to do' is show that there are alternatives to the hysterical claims of rabid AGW proponents. All the wild claims, all the dismissal, all the mean spirited character assassination coming from the AGW proponents reminds of early Scientology.

    What's next? Al Gore going to have those of us dissenting visited by thugs that threaten our families if we don't go along with the fraudulent tax scheme?

    Debate the controversy hasn't worked for creationists, it won't work for the denialist cultists either. It's not an alternative for the obvious reasons I proposed, and dredging up the fake Gore strawman alongside thug enforcers is paranoiac claptrap of the shallowest order.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Mmm, I think I'll stand by virtually EVERY scientific organization in the world in recognizing man-made global warming.
    Yup. In the history of science, such strident defense of conventional wisdom usually precedes a paradigm shift. Stand by.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Debate the controversy hasn't worked for creationists, it won't work for the denialist cultists either. It's not an alternative for the obvious reasons I proposed, and dredging up the fake Gore strawman alongside thug enforcers is paranoiac claptrap of the shallowest order.
    What will work is superior science. See Svensmark.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Svensmark isn't the messiah that deniers think he is when I can rebut him.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Clearly you have an astoundingly unrealistic opinion as to what you can and cannot conclude based upon your lack of scientific bona fides.
    Yeah. I've successfully suffered this all my life. Evidence and proofs are not the exclusive realm of science alone. Amazing, eh?

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Svensmark isn't the messiah that deniers think he is when I can rebut him.
    No need for a messiah. Current AGW climate conventional wisdom seems much like the premodern Ptolemaic planetary model, with epicycles and reverse orbits needed to prop up its terracentric model. Along came the clear, clean science and mathematics of Copernicus and Kepler, and the old paradigm collapsed. They set the problem in a larger frame and pointed to deeper understanding. Likewise Svensmark and CERN have enlarged the frame of our climate discussion, and their clear, clean science and mathematics will sweep away the figurative epicycles and reverse orbits required to sustain belief in AGW orthodoxy.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

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    IT'S A CONSPIRACY!

    Inevitably conservatives after losing on the merits, take bastion in this lunacy.
    We didn't lose on merits. We just aren't reproducing like the unwashed and unmotivated leeches.

    If we'd just impregnate every woman that walks by and fail to educate our bastard children, we wouldn't be so outnumbered eventually.

    You're welcome, by the way, for paying your bills for you.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    We are actually between ice ages.



    I would be willing to bet one it isn't from driving SUVs with V8 engines.
    We're in the middle of an ice age.

    It's common knowledge.

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