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Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm


Yawn...

Do you realize you posted an alarmist blog article, statistics proven to be tainted, and an article with agenda?

I'm pretty sure with the six degrees of separation theory, I can be linked to just about anyone.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Yawn...

Do you realize you posted an alarmist blog article, statistics proven to be tainted, and an article with agenda?

Do you realize that the data doesn't one from them, not to mention there are more than a few sites in this thread?

Impacts of global warming

Global Warming Causes, Climate Change Causes - National Geographic

Balance as bias: global warming and the US prestige press

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en...obal warming peer reviewed man's role&f=false
 
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OK, Please show me a quote that definitively proves CO2.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

OK, Please show me a quote that definitively proves CO2.


You actually have that in one of the links already. But you can find many:


So in effect, carbon dioxide lets the light energy in, but doesn't let all of the heat energy out, similar to a greenhouse.

Currently, the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is increasing at the rate of about one part per million per year. If this continues, some meteorologists expect that the average temperature of the earth will increase by about 2.5 degrees Celsius. This doesn't sound like much, but it could be enough to cause glaciers to melt, which would cause coastal flooding.

8/31/94 - How does carbon dioxide cause global warming?

The evolution of the Earth's climate has been extensively studied1, 2, and a strong link between increases in surface temperatures and greenhouse gases has been established3, 4. But this relationship is complicated by several feedback processes—most importantly the hydrological cycle—that are not well understood5, 6, 7. Changes in the Earth's greenhouse effect can be detected from variations in the spectrum of outgoing longwave radiation8, 9, 10, which is a measure of how the Earth cools to space and carries the imprint of the gases that are responsible for the greenhouse effect11, 12, 13. Here we analyse the difference between the spectra of the outgoing longwave radiation of the Earth as measured by orbiting spacecraft in 1970 and 1997. We find differences in the spectra that point to long-term changes in atmospheric CH4, CO2 and O3 as well as CFC-11 and CFC-12. Our results provide direct experimental evidence for a significant increase in the Earth's greenhouse effect that is consistent with concerns over radiative forcing of climate.

Increases in greenhouse forcing inferred from the outgoing longwave radiation spectra of the Earth in 1970 and 1997 : Abstract : Nature

Report 5: How Do We Contribute to Global Warming?

The Causes of Global Warming: A Global Warming FAQ | Union of Concerned Scientists
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

You actually have that in one of the links already. But you can find many:


So in effect, carbon dioxide lets the light energy in, but doesn't let all of the heat energy out, similar to a greenhouse.

Currently, the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is increasing at the rate of about one part per million per year. If this continues, some meteorologists expect that the average temperature of the earth will increase by about 2.5 degrees Celsius. This doesn't sound like much, but it could be enough to cause glaciers to melt, which would cause coastal flooding.

8/31/94 - How does carbon dioxide cause global warming?

The evolution of the Earth's climate has been extensively studied1, 2, and a strong link between increases in surface temperatures and greenhouse gases has been established3, 4. But this relationship is complicated by several feedback processes—most importantly the hydrological cycle—that are not well understood5, 6, 7. Changes in the Earth's greenhouse effect can be detected from variations in the spectrum of outgoing longwave radiation8, 9, 10, which is a measure of how the Earth cools to space and carries the imprint of the gases that are responsible for the greenhouse effect11, 12, 13. Here we analyse the difference between the spectra of the outgoing longwave radiation of the Earth as measured by orbiting spacecraft in 1970 and 1997. We find differences in the spectra that point to long-term changes in atmospheric CH4, CO2 and O3 as well as CFC-11 and CFC-12. Our results provide direct experimental evidence for a significant increase in the Earth's greenhouse effect that is consistent with concerns over radiative forcing of climate.

Increases in greenhouse forcing inferred from the outgoing longwave radiation spectra of the Earth in 1970 and 1997 : Abstract : Nature

Report 5: How Do We Contribute to Global Warming?

The Causes of Global Warming: A Global Warming FAQ | Union of Concerned Scientists
That doesn't prove it. It tells us what happens if their other assessments are correct, which they even admit have wide uncertainties.

CO2 in the atmosphere isn't a a theory like gravity is. The effects of gravity is repeatable. CO2 isn't. Then, when all is said an done, their radiate forcing assessments violate the Stefan–Boltzmann law to get the temperatures they claim.

Note... LAW... Not theory or hypothesis.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

That doesn't prove it. It tells us what happens if their other assessments are correct, which they even admit have wide uncertainties.

CO2 in the atmosphere isn't a a theory like gravity is. The effects of gravity is repeatable. CO2 isn't. Then, when all is said an done, their radiate forcing assessments violate the Stefan–Boltzmann law to get the temperatures they claim.

Note... LAW... Not theory or hypothesis.

They also assert they are correct. And yes, it is a theory like gravity, and accepted. Sorry.


June 11, 2009 — Damon Matthews, a professor in Concordia University's Department of Geography, Planning and the Environment has found a direct relationship between carbon dioxide emissions and global warming. Matthews, together with colleagues from Victoria and the U.K., used a combination of global climate models and historical climate data to show that there is a simple linear relationship between total cumulative emissions and global temperature change.

Carbon Emissions Linked To Global Warming In Simple Linear Relationship

Who's 'Most to Blame' for Global Warming?

http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/pd/climate/factsheets/howhuman.pdf
 
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They also assert they are correct. And yes, it is a theory like gravity, and accepted. Sorry.


June 11, 2009 — Damon Matthews, a professor in Concordia University's Department of Geography, Planning and the Environment has found a direct relationship between carbon dioxide emissions and global warming. Matthews, together with colleagues from Victoria and the U.K., used a combination of global climate models and historical climate data to show that there is a simple linear relationship between total cumulative emissions and global temperature change.

Carbon Emissions Linked To Global Warming In Simple Linear Relationship

Who's 'Most to Blame' for Global Warming?

http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/pd/climate/factsheets/howhuman.pdf
My God man. Using models rather than confirming with testable experiments?

Matthews, together with colleagues from Victoria and the U.K., used a combination of global climate models and historical climate data to show that there is a simple linear relationship between total cumulative emissions and global temperature change.

What a joke to claim that is any where the repeatability of gravity experiments.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

My God man. Using models rather than confirming with testable experiments?



What a joke to claim that is any where the repeatability of gravity experiments.

Much has been done and repeated. None of this is new.
 
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Much has been done and repeated. None of this is new.

LOL...

Yes. Models are repeatable. They will repeatable give you what ever results you program them to.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

LOL...

Yes. Models are repeatable. They will repeatable give you what ever results you program them to.

And if you go through all the links, you'll find more than that as well. This is the game you guys play. There's a link in that as well.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

And if you go through all the links, you'll find more than that as well. This is the game you guys play. There's a link in that as well.

LOL...

Models will repeat what they are programmed to. that does not mean they represent the real world.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

And if you go through all the links, you'll find more than that as well. This is the game you guys play. There's a link in that as well.

I don't play games with links.

Have any evaluation in your own words, as to what any of those links actually mean?
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

I don't play games with links.

Have any evaluation in your own words, as to what any of those links actually mean?

The links are better. The point has been this is well studied with an overwhelming consensus. You guys get into trouble because you try to pretend you understand it. You know more than the scientific community. You lack the basic rule of intelligence, admitting when you don't know. My argument is the novice is better off deferring to the best evidence. I've linked the best evidence. You guys have linked misrepresentations.

Understand yet?
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

The links are better. The point has been this is well studied with an overwhelming consensus. You guys get into trouble because you try to pretend you understand it. You know more than the scientific community. You lack the basic rule of intelligence, admitting when you don't know. My argument is the novice is better off deferring to the best evidence. I've linked the best evidence. You guys have linked misrepresentations.

Understand yet?

I understand perfectly.

You don't know what you are reading, yet bow down to their authority.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

I understand perfectly.

You don't know what you are reading, yet bow down to their authority.

Still playing your same game I see. You pretend to be a science master but are just an illusion. You rope people in and demand they personally understand all the science 100% or else its all invalid. Its so pathetic because you don't even understand it yourself but you know how to present your nonsense as though it is genuine.

You do this day in and day out, its disgusting.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Still playing your same game I see. You pretend to be a science master but are just an illusion. You rope people in and demand they personally understand all the science 100% or else its all invalid. Its so pathetic because you don't even understand it yourself but you know how to present your nonsense as though it is genuine.

You do this day in and day out, its disgusting.
I only ask that people understand what they are debating. I find it appalling that people will bow down to the AGW Gods.

Faith is a religion. Not science.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

I understand perfectly.

You don't know what you are reading, yet bow down to their authority.

I understand the language just find. But, when I want a car fixed, I consult a mechanic. I could listen to the waiter at Perkins, but I tend to use the mechanic. When I'm sick or injured I consult a doctor. I could ask cashier at Walmart, but I ask the doctor instead. And when I want to know about science, I consult scientist. I could listen to Rush, but I'm funny about thinking those who've actually studied something generally no more.

I've seen all the rebuttals. Addressed a few here that were wild misrepresentations. Certainly if someone presented something that wasn't so easily shown to be silliness, you might have a case. But to think you're a true thinker while ignoring best evidence is akin to saying I'm a professional football player while ignoring I'm not aid to play for any team.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

I understand the language just find. But, when I want a car fixed, I consult a mechanic. I could listen to the waiter at Perkins, but I tend to use the mechanic. When I'm sick or injured I consult a doctor. I could ask cashier at Walmart, but I ask the doctor instead. And when I want to know about science, I consult scientist. I could listen to Rush, but I'm funny about thinking those who've actually studied something generally no more.

I've seen all the rebuttals. Addressed a few here that were wild misrepresentations. Certainly if someone presented something that wasn't so easily shown to be silliness, you might have a case. But to think you're a true thinker while ignoring best evidence is akin to saying I'm a professional football player while ignoring I'm not aid to play for any team.

The perfect flat earther response. Believe what others say without understanding.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

I only ask that people understand what they are debating. I find it appalling that people will bow down to the AGW Gods.

Faith is a religion. Not science.

Onto strategy B of your box of gay tricks. You wrap yourself in science and pretend to be a free spirit, an independent thinker who is no doubt a patriot and a fantastic, real, scientist! Nothing could be further from the truth though. You bastardize science. You lie. You cheat. You bluff. You're an illusion.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

The perfect flat earther response.

No, I accept science. You seem to be more of a flat earthier.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

I understand the language just find. But, when I want a car fixed, I consult a mechanic. I could listen to the waiter at Perkins, but I tend to use the mechanic. When I'm sick or injured I consult a doctor. I could ask cashier at Walmart, but I ask the doctor instead. And when I want to know about science, I consult scientist. I could listen to Rush, but I'm funny about thinking those who've actually studied something generally no more.

I've seen all the rebuttals. Addressed a few here that were wild misrepresentations. Certainly if someone presented something that wasn't so easily shown to be silliness, you might have a case. But to think you're a true thinker while ignoring best evidence is akin to saying I'm a professional football player while ignoring I'm not aid to play for any team.

I know a bit about natural science and did an introductory amount of reading of climate science. That was all I needed to tear apart Planar's nonsense. It takes a little while you have to do some research but once you figure out what he's doing its just pathetic. You uses big terms, math, makes it all look really complicated and solid, like he knows what he's talking about. But once you break it down you will find he's just making crap up, absolutely ridiculous arguments that make no sense whatsoever.
 
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No, I accept science. You seem to be more of a flat earthier.

Yet I can explain the holes in what they say, and you cannot counter in your own words.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Yet I can explain the holes in what they say, and you cannot counter in your own words.

No, you just think you can. You play hat with other novices, ignore evidence, and declare your brilliance. It's a common Internet trick, but most know it's bs.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

No, you just think you can. You play hat with other novices, ignore evidence, and declare your brilliance. It's a common Internet trick, but most know it's bs.

If that is what you wish to believe, then fine. It doesn't matter to me. I find it odd that people prefer to discredit me than my words. That tells me you have no valid argument against my words.
 
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