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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Could it be that the current 13-year high in solar output might be the culprit? Nah, that would be too easy to understand by most people. We need lots of charts and graphs from computer analysis programs to explain it to us, in terms that cannot be understood, even by the scientists who admit same. Since it has been determined that we are easily awed by big words, that is what we receive today.... Common sense left the building in disgust....
    The warmists are in retreat. A professor named Svensmark is crushing them. He is aided and abetted by that well known hotbed of climate denial, The Royal Astronomical Society of the United Kingdom. Good afternoon, Polgara.

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    Apr 24, 2012 Henrik Svensmark of the Technical University of Denmark (DTU) sets out ... in the journal Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

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    Well, you've got me beaten. I don't know an isotope from beans. I am the recipient of a marvelous education which unfortunately exceeded my intellect. Sad, but not an entirely wasted effort. I'm living proof that a bonehead can do pretty well. You folks have a great day. I have things to do.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Although I do remember some of the data in reports in the news for a short time, that you guys bring it back with clear explanation, will drive the long time entrenched drones in here crazy...I think its great...Welcome to you guys, hope y'all stick around.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

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    I clearly lack the knowledge you have, and yet I am able to reach a similar conclusion with a layman's knowledge of this stuff. That alone should be sufficient for concern within the scientific community that they have not yet offered the required proof to generate action, and the actions they believe are necessary are significant enough to warrant such a proof. Furthermore, if the calculations they have offered to date to mitigate green house gases are correct, there's little reason to embark on their suggested course.
    Clearly you have an astoundingly unrealistic opinion as to what you can and cannot conclude based upon your lack of scientific bona fides.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The warmists are in retreat. A professor named Svensmark is crushing them. He is aided and abetted by that well known hotbed of climate denial, The Royal Astronomical Society of the United Kingdom. Good afternoon, Polgara.

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    Apr 24, 2012 – Henrik Svensmark of the Technical University of Denmark (DTU) sets out ... in the journal Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.
    I really hate to burst your bubble, but Svensmark really hasn't proven anything. Deniers have been flocking to cosmic rays for years as a last best hope to support their anti-global-warming religion, but there's really no there there. RealClimate: A review of cosmic rays and climate: a cluttered story of little success
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I really hate to burst your bubble, but Svensmark really hasn't proven anything. Deniers have been flocking to cosmic rays for years as a last best hope to support their anti-global-warming religion, but there's really no there there. RealClimate: A review of cosmic rays and climate: a cluttered story of little success
    Keep up the denial. I think I'll side with the Royal Astronomical Society over RealClimate.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    From the Royal Astronomical Society:

    Did exploding stars help life on Earth to thrive?
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    Research by a Danish physicist suggests that the explosion of massive stars – supernovae – near the Solar System has strongly influenced the development of life. Prof. Henrik Svensmark of the Technical University of Denmark (DTU) sets out his novel work in a paper in the journal Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.

    Pleiades - smallAn image of the Pleiades (M45), a famous star cluster about 135 million years old. This age means that any massive stars in the cluster would have exploded as supernovae when ammonites were prominent in the sea. According to Henrik Svensmark, the rate of nearby supernovae strongly influenced the diversity of such marine invertebrates. Credit: NASA, ESA and AURA/CaltechWhen the most massive stars exhaust their available fuel and reach the end of their lives, they explode as supernovae, tremendously powerful explosions that are briefly brighter than an entire galaxy of normal stars. The remnants of these dramatic events also release vast numbers of high-energy charged particles known as galactic cosmic rays (GCR). If a supernova is close enough to the Solar System, the enhanced GCR levels can have a direct impact on the atmosphere of the Earth.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Excellent post!

    The more we learn, the more we realize we have so much more to learn?

    Good evening, Jack.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Excellent post!

    The more we learn, the more we realize we have so much more to learn?

    Good evening, Jack.
    Good evening, Polgara. And thanks.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Now all he needs to establish is that cosmic rays have an effect, overcoming the solar magnetic field's protection. Once that's established, then he has only to establish that cosmic rays can seed low-level clouds and then that low-level clouds cause a long-term negative trend in climatic terms. Stand all those bottles in a row, and his research might have something to commend it.
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