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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Being able to identify and source the CO2 is not the same thing as being able to demonstrate the connection between warming and CO2 rise.

    Science is able to do a whole bunch of stuff with CO2 and the sourcing and the isotopes and all of that. Providing the causal link between all of the CO2 stuff and the warming that they say must be happening because it must be happening is just not being proven.

    They have a notion that it might be, but this comes nowhere near being a Theory in the scientific sense.
    I clearly lack the knowledge you have, and yet I am able to reach a similar conclusion with a layman's knowledge of this stuff. That alone should be sufficient for concern within the scientific community that they have not yet offered the required proof to generate action, and the actions they believe are necessary are significant enough to warrant such a proof. Furthermore, if the calculations they have offered to date to mitigate green house gases are correct, there's little reason to embark on their suggested course.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Good. Keep that mind closed.

    Burn and witches today?
    That's more your forte, Pilgrim.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Okay, well, post these reports and let's see the scientific data to back up the claim. Because every report I've yet to see a credible report claim that solar activity can account for the warming trend.

    To be clear, everyone acknowledges that solar warming is the primary component to temperature. The question is, has there been any change in solar activity commensurate with the warming we've seen over the last 40 or so years.


    It requires less energy to warm a warm thing than warm a cool thing.

    We are at historically high levels of TSI even though those levels are lower than they were 40 years ago.

    Hoever, the TSI in Indiana is ALWAYS less in August than in June, but the temperature is ALWAYS higher.

    There can be and is a lagging effect of climate that extends year to year as is evidenced by the decrease of Ice in the Arctic.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I believe it's safe to say that anything involving remuneration would be excluded. You have to understand the nature of such insurance. It's not about money. It's about staying cool, and the best way to stay cool is to have this insurance. If you don't have it, you're not cool and could be wearing plaid pants.
    LOL ! The clothing manufacturers are doubtless gearing up as we speak. Plaid will be the "in" fabric to have to make a statement against "cool," metaphorically speaking. Judging from what I am reading, they might have trouble keeping enough in stock to meet demand.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I clearly lack the knowledge you have, and yet I am able to reach a similar conclusion with a layman's knowledge of this stuff. That alone should be sufficient for concern within the scientific community that they have not yet offered the required proof to generate action, and the actions they believe are necessary are significant enough to warrant such a proof. Furthermore, if the calculations they have offered to date to mitigate green house gases are correct, there's little reason to embark on their suggested course.


    Don't be fooled by me. I know a couple big words, but am not in any way a scientist.

    I was a proponent of the AGW stuff in about 2002 or 3, don't recall exactly, and someone told me on the boards provided by my ISP that the whole extent of warming since the year 0 was about 0.7 degrees. I was convinced that this was incorrect and so set about proving the poster wrong. I proved myself wrong.

    Now I'm always amazed at how people simply close their eyes, ears and mind to everything that is being put out there in order to maintain their belief system.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    That's more your forte, Pilgrim.

    Sorry. I, unlike you, accept almost nothing on faith.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    LOL ! The clothing manufacturers are doubtless gearing up as we speak. Plaid will be the "in" fabric to have to make a statement against "cool," metaphorically speaking. Judging from what I am reading, they might have trouble keeping enough in stock to meet demand.

    In 1975, I had a pair of plaid Corduroys, a white deep well turtleneck sweater and a suede jacket along with platform shoes for men. I was just about as cool as a guy could be.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Don't be fooled by me. I know a couple big words, but am not in any way a scientist.

    I was a proponent of the AGW stuff in about 2002 or 3, don't recall exactly, and someone told me on the boards provided by my ISP that the whole extent of warming since the year 0 was about 0.7 degrees. I was convinced that this was incorrect and so set about proving the poster wrong. I proved myself wrong.

    Now I'm always amazed at how people simply close their eyes, ears and mind to everything that is being put out there in order to maintain their belief system.
    Well, you've got me beaten. I don't know an isotope from beans. I am the recipient of a marvelous education which unfortunately exceeded my intellect. Sad, but not an entirely wasted effort. I'm living proof that a bonehead can do pretty well. You folks have a great day. I have things to do.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    A warming trend has been noted on Mars that has mirrored the warming trend recently experienced here. I'd post the data, but I'm not posting anything like that until the warming mongers post their unfiltered data, too. Seriously, you CAN look this up and verify it for yourself.
    Could it be that the current 13-year high in solar output might be the culprit? Nah, that would be too easy to understand by most people. We need lots of charts and graphs from computer analysis programs to explain it to us, in terms that cannot be understood, even by the scientists who admit same. Since it has been determined that we are easily awed by big words, that is what we receive today.... Common sense left the building in disgust....

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    In 1975, I had a pair of plaid Corduroys, a white deep well turtleneck sweater and a suede jacket along with platform shoes for men. I was just about as cool as a guy could be.
    LOL ! I think a girlfriend of mine had a huge crush on you.... She thought you were SOOO COOL!...

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