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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am fully aware of that, but we must also be vigilant to make sure that regulations make sense, and are not used as weapons of the state against the peoples rights either.
    Absolutely. But don't say merely that we have too many. Address where they don't make sense. Be specific.

    And no hyperbole about weapons. Seriously. These things come from people fighting forges e things because of the environmental issues they care about. Instead of exaggerating, understand everything comes from a concern.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I will have to look back, but I think and others have said GW and mans role was largely made up. Yes, I did use short hand, but that was the part I was addressing.

    As for the National Review, a publication that skews things badly, Al Gore is not an scientist. When talking science, his name should never come up. Real scientist thank him drawing attention to the issue, but do not consider his presentation to be equal to a scientific report. And this is where these sources let you down. They blurr the science and the politics, leaving a false impression.

    Btw, if you read the entire article I linked, I believe you'll find climate change in there.

    The point is, the science alone says man plays a role. The science alone suggests we can help with some actions. But don't confuse politicians with scientist. And understand, money if not politics plays a larger role with skeptics who work for companies that want there to be skeptism. Never from get the lessons from big tobacco. Make a false controversy, and th willing will follow.


    How big a role in the change of Temperature has CO2 emitted by mankind played?

    What are the recommended changes needed to allow man to control and direct the climate of the planet?

    What will be the result measurable in the temperature of the globe be if man makes all of the recommended changes in his global behavior?

    What is the ideal temperature of the globe and how will mankind maintain this into the future for all time?
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    The "study" was a rigged compilation of papers by an agenda driven group conducted to prove a point of view that was determined prior to the start of the exercise.

    "The abstracts from these papers were randomly distributed between a team of 24 volunteers recruited through the "myth-busting" website skepticalscience.com, who used set criteria to determine the level to which the abstracts endorsed that humans are the primary cause of global warming. Each abstract was analyzed by two independent, anonymous raters."

    I defy you to find an article in the Skeptical Science Web site that gives full throated support to the idea that man has had no impact on the climate or that man cannot affect the climate.

    This is an agenda driven site that has only one view point on this topic.
    You'll never get through to those faithful of the dogma their religion dictates.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    You'll never get through to those faithful of the dogma their religion dictates.
    And as those things have been answered and shown false, you're the ones taking faith over evidence.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And as those things have been answered and shown false, you're the ones taking faith over evidence.
    If that's what you believe.

    Your faith is strong!

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And as those things have been answered and shown false, you're the ones taking faith over evidence.


    What evidence? You have yet to present any.

    If you have no proof and still believe, you must have faith.

    I, like you, have no evidence, but unlike you, have no faith. That is why I doubt.

    By the by, you didn't answer my questions. I'll help you out. Here they are again:

    How big a role in the change of Temperature has CO2 emitted by mankind played?

    What are the recommended changes needed to allow man to control and direct the climate of the planet?

    What will be the result measurable in the temperature of the globe be if man makes all of the recommended changes in his global behavior?

    What is the ideal temperature of the globe and how will mankind maintain this into the future for all time?
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    If that's what you believe.

    Your faith is strong!
    Still projecting.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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