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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Uh, no. 66% didn't bother to comment in their papers because they weren't discussing causes. It's like papers in physics discussing gravity...you can't pretend there is no consensus on gravity because cause want addressed.

    But when cause IS addressed, the imbalance is 36:1. That's pretty definitive for those of us based in reality.

    Would you rather us state the conclusion the other way? Only 0.3% of papers on climate dispute AGW. That's just as accurate...


    The "study" was a rigged compilation of papers by an agenda driven group conducted to prove a point of view that was determined prior to the start of the exercise.

    "The abstracts from these papers were randomly distributed between a team of 24 volunteers recruited through the "myth-busting" website skepticalscience.com, who used set criteria to determine the level to which the abstracts endorsed that humans are the primary cause of global warming. Each abstract was analyzed by two independent, anonymous raters."

    I defy you to find an article in the Skeptical Science Web site that gives full throated support to the idea that man has had no impact on the climate or that man cannot affect the climate.

    This is an agenda driven site that has only one view point on this topic.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yep, and not significant nor meaningful.

    And yes, there is a consensus. An overwhelming consensus. That was just from the journal articles. Not every article would go to cause. Again, your misreading and lack of understanding hinders you.
    Just reading what the agenda driven biased site wrote.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global ...

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    You have yet to explain why the warming effect of CO2 has stopped.

    You have yet to explain why no scientific organization on the planet has accepted this to be a theory.

    You have yet to link to the test that can falsify this notion which is the key characteristic of a Scientific Hypothesis.

    You have yet to explain why the warming trend that we currently enjoy started 150 years before the cause you cite came into being.

    All you have is a strong belief. You have no proof at all and an infinite amount of faith. You might as well be tossing virgins into a volcano.

    If you do have proof, however, feel free to present it.
    You are factual wrong on hose points and I did link to that earlier, sir. Knight.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You are factual wrong on hose points and I did link to that earlier, sir. Knight.


    You have linked to none of these.

    Why do you think you have?
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global ...

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    You have linked to none of these.

    Why do you think you have?
    Here's one I'm sure you can remember seeing before:

    Matalin said, "for the last decade the climate has been cooling." That suggests there has been a distinct reversal of the steady warming that scientists have documented for many years. But a review of the data shows that's not the case. The numbers show that in the past 10 years, global temperatures have not continued their sharp increase. But they have not cooled either. In fact, some years in the last decade have been hotter than the previous years. At most, they could be described as hitting a plateau. But they haven't cooled as Matalin said. We find her claim False.

    PolitiFact | Matalin claims the Earth is cooling


    You will likely ignore this again as you did last time, and as you have the others. But try not to forget that you got this one. And maybe go back and read the other posts you forgot.

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    Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    The "study" was a rigged compilation of papers by an agenda driven group conducted to prove a point of view that was determined prior to the start of the exercise.

    "The abstracts from these papers were randomly distributed between a team of 24 volunteers recruited through the "myth-busting" website skepticalscience.com, who used set criteria to determine the level to which the abstracts endorsed that humans are the primary cause of global warming. Each abstract was analyzed by two independent, anonymous raters."

    I defy you to find an article in the Skeptical Science Web site that gives full throated support to the idea that man has had no impact on the climate or that man cannot affect the climate.

    This is an agenda driven site that has only one view point on this topic.
    Hmm. You went from " the statistics are misrepresented" to " the data is biased". I guess when someone shows you you're wrong, you can always go back to the old conspiracy theories.
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    UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It is odd to me tat you so clearly see, in your mind, that scientist must be getting rich by claiming man contributes to GW, but cannot see way to question those paid by groups who's bottom line depends on it not being true as being possibly inaccurate. Not only that, you can't see how that might point to your bias.

    There are too many, an overwhelming majority, for it to be the type of thing you suggest. The fringe element that you so reverently accept is much more likely to be influenced by money. Odd you can't see that.

    Also, arrogance nor ignorance has not been the main argument in any way. Your either over sensitivity or inability to grasp the what is really being argued is more the problem. I personally think it is over sensitivity. Looking so hard to be insulted, so hard to see some one "ordering" you that you don't really engage what us being said.

    Today, people still choose to smoke for example. All evidence clearly makes that a poor choice, but some see pointing hat as being insulting. It isn't. Some people do drugs or drink and drive, and there is plenty if evidence to show the hazards of both. Pointing the arrogance of ignoring the evidence is justified. Thinking that you or me as untrained people who cannot know everything are more informed, more knowledgable, and less, corrupt than the overwhelming bulk of scientist is true arrogance. If you or I can't see that we are ignorant, we can't know as much, we lack the education or training to know, makes us both arrogant and more than just ignorant.
    All I can say is I am disappointed in your response here.
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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    All I can say is I am disappointed in your response here.
    About me again. You still haven't addressed the point that has continued for three exchanges.

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    UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    About me again. You still haven't addressed the point that has continued for three exchanges.
    What is your point Joe?
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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What is your point Joe?
    The article's point was that there are reasons people ignore evidence. It's a rather common issue. They rationalize away the evidence. They showed examples of people doing that, and I showed a few more. You went with insulted and forced, which was not the point. The point is people do rationalize away evidence they don't want to accept. It's rather normal.

    This is what your side is doing with GW.

    I also made clear that it is arrogant to assume we know everything. It is our ignorance that allows us to be fooled. Neither you nor I, nor Code or lop know enough to pretend we know more than the experts. It's easy to parrot a hacks questions, but it's another thing to understand the answers.

    So we are all dependent on people who have put in the years of study and work.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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