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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

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    "The amount of meat I eat?" Are you serious? But you don't want to control anyone do you?
    Swwwoooossshhh!

    Not the point at all. Not at all.
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    UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Swwwoooossshhh!

    Not the point at all. Not at all.
    Then why'd you say it...I get your larger point just fine, but you included that into it, why?
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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then why'd you say it...I get your larger point just fine, but you included that into it, why?
    Because I repeatedly underestimate the ability you have to skip the point being made to focus on some irrelevant thing said, often out of context as you did here, in order to not talk about the point being made. The tactic is annoying and weak, but you and others are consistent at doing it. The writer merely pointed out that despite the evidence on these things, we had largely not changed. There was no call to control you. Only an idiot reads it that way. Or someone being dishonest. The point was, and partly being made by the meat comment, is that we go against science and actual evidence because we don't want to change.

    So, I repeat: Swooooshhh!!

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    UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Because I repeatedly underestimate the ability you have to skip the point being made to focus on some irrelevant thing said, often out of context as you did here, in order to not talk about the point being made. The tactic is annoying and weak, but you and others are consistent at doing it. The writer merely pointed out that despite the evidence on these things, we had largely not changed. There was no call to control you. Only an idiot reads it that way. Or someone being dishonest. The point was, and partly being made by the meat comment, is that we go against science and actual evidence because we don't want to change.

    So, I repeat: Swooooshhh!!
    You're right, in that "you" specifically didn't make the comment about eating meat, but you linked it, so I assume you agree with it. But, the larger point he is making is that non supporters of AGW must be led, (forced) to compliance because they are just too dumb to understand the issue. It remains insulting and ineffective.
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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're right, in that "you" specifically didn't make the comment about eating meat, but you linked it, so I assume you agree with it. But, the larger point he is making is that non supporters of AGW must be led, (forced) to compliance because they are just too dumb to understand the issue. It remains insulting and ineffective.
    You're still missing it. Lord. No one said anything about force. Not the article. Not me.

    And dumb wasn't what they said either.

    So, once again, SSSWWWOOOOOISSSSSH!!!!
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    UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You're still missing it. Lord. No one said anything about force. Not the article. Not me.

    And dumb wasn't what they said either.

    So, once again, SSSWWWOOOOOISSSSSH!!!!
    Just that they are either too selfish in their lifestyle, or they can't face the certainty, either way, it is insulting. It also does make the case that because of this, those who "understand" the issue will have bring them along... , (force)
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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Just that they are either too selfish in their lifestyle, or they can't face the certainty, either way, it is insulting. It also does make the case that because of this, those who "understand" the issue will have bring them along... , (force)
    So, if you see a person on welfare, who is capable of working but doesn't even try, you wouldn't call them out on it?

    Yes, we can call it an insult. And you or others may see it that way. But if it's the truth, do we refrain and just placate you or do we state it plainly? The FACT is in those examples, the real and actual evidence is being ignored and replaced by excuse making. This is a truth.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Which GW theory fits. There is little debate on it outside of political hacks.


    Just go through it point by point:

    "It makes falsifiable predictions with consistent accuracy across a broad area of scientific inquiry (such as mechanics).
    It is well-supported by many independent strands of evidence, rather than a single foundation. This ensures that it is probably a good approximation, if not completely correct.
    It is consistent with pre-existing theories and other experimental results. (Its predictions may differ slightly from pre-existing theories in cases where they are more accurate than before.)
    It can be adapted and modified to account for new evidence as it is discovered, thus increasing its predictive capability over time.
    It is among the most parsimonious explanations, sparing in proposed entities or explanations. (See Occam's razor. Since there is no generally accepted objective definition of parsimony, this is not a strict criterion, but some theories are much less economical than others.)"

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    "The theory of biological evolution is more than "just a theory." It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.[2]"

    AGW compared to these is an empty shell of a notion which is why no reputable science organization or even those not so reputable will elevate this swindle to the defintion of being a Theory.

    You saying that you feel like it is just doesn't cut it.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global ...

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Just go through it point by point:

    "It makes falsifiable predictions with consistent accuracy across a broad area of scientific inquiry (such as mechanics).
    It is well-supported by many independent strands of evidence, rather than a single foundation. This ensures that it is probably a good approximation, if not completely correct.
    It is consistent with pre-existing theories and other experimental results. (Its predictions may differ slightly from pre-existing theories in cases where they are more accurate than before.)
    It can be adapted and modified to account for new evidence as it is discovered, thus increasing its predictive capability over time.
    It is among the most parsimonious explanations, sparing in proposed entities or explanations. (See Occam's razor. Since there is no generally accepted objective definition of parsimony, this is not a strict criterion, but some theories are much less economical than others.)"

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    "The theory of biological evolution is more than "just a theory." It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.[2]"

    AGW compared to these is an empty shell of a notion which is why no reputable science organization or even those not so reputable will elevate this swindle to the defintion of being a Theory.

    You saying that you feel like it is just doesn't cut it.
    All you show here is that you don't know enough. Your massive conspiracy is beyond any reasonableness person believing.

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    admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So, if you see a person on welfare, who is capable of working but doesn't even try, you wouldn't call them out on it?

    Yes, we can call it an insult. And you or others may see it that way. But if it's the truth, do we refrain and just placate you or do we state it plainly? The FACT is in those examples, the real and actual evidence is being ignored and replaced by excuse making. This is a truth.
    I disagree. I think most people, right or left acknowledge climate change, but are highly skeptical of what those who have politicized the issue, or those claiming they have the irrefutable truth as they scheme to get rich off of it, and rightly so.

    But the fact is things are being developed by private industry that work, and I have no problem with. When arrogance, and insult are the main argument, I think you have to check yourself.
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