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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Something I always tell you:

    Through content analysis of US prestige press—meaning the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, and the Wall Street Journal—this paper focuses on the norm of balanced reporting, and shows that the prestige press's adherence to balance actually leads to biased coverage of both anthropogenic contributions to global warming and resultant action.

    Balance as bias: global warming and the US prestige press

    In other words, giving equal treatment to misinformation is bias itself.

    More:

    Subjects had a poor appreciation of the facts that (1) if significant global warming occurs, it will be primarily the result of an increase in the concentration of carbon dioxide in the earth's atmosphere, and (2) the single most important source of additional carbon dioxide is the combustion of fossil fuels, most notably coal and oil. In addition, their understanding of the climate issue was encumbered with secondary, irrelevant, and incorrect beliefs. Of these, the two most critical are confusion with the problems of stratospheric ozone and difficulty in differentiating between causes and actions specific to climate and more general good environmental practice.

    What Do People Know About Global Climate Change? 2. Survey Studies of Educated Laypeople - Read - 2006 - Risk Analysis - Wiley Online Library

    47 Social Problems 2000 Challenging Global Warming as a Social Problem: An Analysis of the Conservative Movement's Counter-Claims
    I will accecpt your basic premise: CO2 (and other gases) affect the climate, man (and his habits) produce CO2 (and other gases).

    Explain this fact and why global warming alarmists still focus on transportation changes:


    Livestock are responsible for 18 per cent of the greenhouse gases that cause global warming, more than cars, planes and all other forms of transport put together.
    Cow 'emissions' more damaging to planet than CO2 from cars - Climate Change - Environment - The Independent

    “Livestock are one of the most significant contributors to today’s most serious environmental problems,” senior UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) official Henning Steinfeld said. “Urgent action is required to remedy the situation.”

    Cattle-rearing is also a major source of land and water degradation, according to the FAO report, Livestock’s Long Shadow–Environmental Issues and Options, of which Mr. Steinfeld is the senior author.

    “The environmental costs per unit of livestock production must be cut by one half, just to avoid the level of damage worsening beyond its present level,” it warns.
    United Nations News Centre - Rearing cattle produces more greenhouse gases than driving cars, UN report warns

    HowStuffWorks "Do cows pollute as much as cars?"

    Cow Emissions Harm Planet Far More Than C02 From Cars
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    What is it with this bizarre line of reasoning?

    Its ignorance of science at its very basic level.
    No, it is ignorant to refuse to respond directly to a direct question. Still hasn't been done, would you care to try?
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    Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global ...

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, it is ignorant to refuse to respond directly to a direct question. Still hasn't been done, would you care to try?
    If you don't get it, you won't understand without a basic science education, which I can't provide here.

    If you did have a basic science education, you either forgot it all or are being deliberately dishonest. Neither of those things are fixable here, either.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    If you don't get it, you won't understand without a basic science education, which I can't provide here.
    So how about telling us something we don't know?

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Something I always tell you:

    Through content analysis of US prestige press—meaning the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, and the Wall Street Journal—this paper focuses on the norm of balanced reporting, and shows that the prestige press's adherence to balance actually leads to biased coverage of both anthropogenic contributions to global warming and resultant action.

    Balance as bias: global warming and the US prestige press

    First paper, discussing the problem with understanding AGW, by blaming it on reporting in the US media is not a peer reviewed study showing AGW as a scientific theory.



    Two more papers saying that the general public is just too stupid to understand AGW, therefore we don't need them....I still see no paper declaring that AGW is a scientific theory.

    Care to keep trying?
    Well, more that it is confused. the same tactics you embrace were used to cloud the smoking issue. Which does prove you can fool some people all the time.

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, you posted more dancing around, trying to paint those who oppose AGW as some kind of kooks...That is not what was asked for, but you know that.
    No dancing. They accept the theory. Period. Only you are confused.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I will accecpt your basic premise: CO2 (and other gases) affect the climate, man (and his habits) produce CO2 (and other gases).

    Explain this fact and why global warming alarmists still focus on transportation changes:



    Cow 'emissions' more damaging to planet than CO2 from cars - Climate Change - Environment - The Independent


    United Nations News Centre - Rearing cattle produces more greenhouse gases than driving cars, UN report warns

    HowStuffWorks "Do cows pollute as much as cars?"

    Cow Emissions Harm Planet Far More Than C02 From Cars
    I think it is natural to focus on what you can control. It's one thing to have something occurring naturally, a cow. it's another to have something created that contributes.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    So how about telling us something we don't know?
    Hmm. Shouldn't you be writing up your brilliant proof that the simple heat transfer calculations you did totally discredit every scientific organization in the world?

    They do pay you for that Nobel, you know.
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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So you say. You, the less than novice. You say.


    You cannot find a scientific organization that has classed this as a theory. You cannot find a scientific organization that has proposed a test that could falsify this nonsense. You cannot find a 30 year old prediction based on AGW that is accurate.

    You have found the emoticon button. Good for you!

    What are you? 12? 12 and a half?

    Keep trying junior.
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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I think he's both the cultist and the less than novice, but the thing is, he hasn't PROVEN anyone wrong.


    The proof needs to be on the Diehard side. oubt requires no proof and that is good since there is none to provide.

    At least, you haven't provided it.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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