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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    You still have yet to present the science you say exists to support this. You claim there is a consensus and that is your proof that there is a consensus. That's just a tad circular.

    You proudly proclaim that you do not understand the science, do not present the science and rely only on the opinion of those that cannot support their assertions with real world, actual proof.
    Not sure why you and j are being dishonest, but I've given you may links supporting that it exists. You silly folks accept far less support than I've given you.

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not from other novices. That would be stupid.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance". -Confucius.

    You are absolutely certain that what you do not understand that does not make sense is absolutely and irrefutably true.

    You don't need to ask questions of people that you erroneously classify as novices. You only need to ask what else must be true for this to be true.

    You will never learn anything outside of your foolish consistency until you understand that what you accept as an absolute is not even a defined hypothesis. The experts upon whom you rely cannot take the first step in defining what they are striving so ardently to sell because there is no solid ground on which they may base their work.


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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not sure why you and j are being dishonest, but I've given you may links supporting that it exists. You silly folks accept far less support than I've given you.


    Nice emoticon. Must really knock their socks off at PS 57.

    You have not. You post links to articles that say nothing. Post the link and then cut and paste the salient point that you are trying to base your assertion on.

    I have asked you to do this repeatedly and you have declined the opportunity. The only conclusion from this is that you do not have the proof. Since the proof does not exist, this is not surprising. What is surprising is that, if you have actually tried to find the proof and failed, why you still believe it exists. Like a sad Templar searching for the Grail.

    No evidence, no proof and no results. Only faith and reliance on what you have been taught by the folks who have a stake in forming your opinion, not in opening your eyes.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance". -Confucius.

    You are absolutely certain that what you do not understand that does not make sense is absolutely and irrefutably true.

    You don't need to ask questions of people that you erroneously classify as novices. You only need to ask what else must be true for this to be true.

    You will never learn anything outside of your foolish consistency until you understand that what you accept as an absolute is not even a defined hypothesis. The experts upon whom you rely cannot take the first step in defining what they are striving so ardently to sell because there is no solid ground on which they may base their work.


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    2. a probationer in a religious order
    3. a sportsman, esp an oarsman, who has not won a recognized prize, performed to an established level, etc
    4. a racehorse, esp a steeplechaser or hurdler, that has not won a specified number of races

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    You have the strangest beliefs, unsupported beliefs.


    Reality Check: Numerous scientific studies have confirmed that the Earth is warming and that the rate of warming is increasing. Average temperatures have climbed 1.4F (0.8C) around the world since 1880. Much of the temperature increase happened in recent decades, coinciding with a spike of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases emitted into the atmosphere as a result of human activity.

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    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You have the strangest beliefs, unsupported beliefs.


    Reality Check: Numerous scientific studies have confirmed that the Earth is warming and that the rate of warming is increasing. Average temperatures have climbed 1.4F (0.8C) around the world since 1880. Much of the temperature increase happened in recent decades, coinciding with a spike of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases emitted into the atmosphere as a result of human activity.

    Fact Checking 6 Persistent Science Conspiracy Theories


    Again, no science to back up your opinion poll.

    Keep trying though. If, as you believe, the proof is there, I'm sure you will find it sometime.

    Warming is accelerating? Tough to prove with actual proof. With the current cooling in progress, the warming from 1910 to 1940 was faster than the warming from 1970 to 2000. In between and following these two periods, there was and is cooling. Someone with even the slightest curiosity and the slightest critical thought would question the dogma.

    Completely dismissing curiosity and critical thought is a requirement to accept AGW.

    I have strange beliefs? My beliefs are based on what nature does. Your beliefs are based on what people you don't know say about things you don't research concerning topics you can't comprehend.

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Again, no science to back up your opinion poll.

    Keep trying though. If, as you believe, the proof is there, I'm sure you will find it sometime.

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    Wrong. Just note of those backing the science. You know, those who the work. Not those who are novice at best.

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Wrong. Just note of those backing the science. You know, those who the work. Not those who are novice at best.


    When you accept an idea as factual, you are committed to it. I'll give you that.

    Have you found the science organization that has defined this as a Scientific Theory yet?

    Have you found the test defined by any science organization that provides the method by which this notion might be falsified? Without that, this is not even a Scientific Hypothesis.

    http://biology.duke.edu/rausher/HYPOTHES.pdf

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    HYPOTHESIS TESTING
    There are two ways to "test" the validity of an hypothesis:
    1. by attempting to falsify it
    2. by attempting to distinguish it from another hypothesis
    To falsify an hypothesis, one needs to identify a novel phenomenon that is expected to occur if the hypothesis is true, and either observationally or experimentally determine if that phenomenon actually occurs. If it doesn't, the hypothesis is falsified and we reject it. If it does, we tentatively accept the hypothesis, pending further testing.
    To distinguish between two hypotheses, one needs to identify a phenomenon about which the hypotheses make different predictions. Using experiments or observations, that phenomenon is examined. The hypothesis making the correct prediction is accepted as more correct than the other hypothesis.
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    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    When you accept an idea as factual, you are committed to it. I'll give you that.

    Have you found the science organization that has defined this as a Scientific Theory yet?

    Have you found the test defined by any science organization that provides the method by which this notion might be falsified? Without that, this is not even a Scientific Hypothesis.

    http://biology.duke.edu/rausher/HYPOTHES.pdf

    <snip>
    HYPOTHESIS TESTING
    There are two ways to "test" the validity of an hypothesis:
    1. by attempting to falsify it
    2. by attempting to distinguish it from another hypothesis
    To falsify an hypothesis, one needs to identify a novel phenomenon that is expected to occur if the hypothesis is true, and either observationally or experimentally determine if that phenomenon actually occurs. If it doesn't, the hypothesis is falsified and we reject it. If it does, we tentatively accept the hypothesis, pending further testing.
    To distinguish between two hypotheses, one needs to identify a phenomenon about which the hypotheses make different predictions. Using experiments or observations, that phenomenon is examined. The hypothesis making the correct prediction is accepted as more correct than the other hypothesis.
    <snip>
    As I've I already linked many organizations that accept and declare mans role in GW to be accepted scientific theory, you're the one being silly.

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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As I've I already linked many organizations that accept and declare mans role in GW to be accepted scientific theory, you're the one being silly.


    You have not. If you know of one, then please favor us now.
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    Re: UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As I've I already linked many organizations that accept and declare mans role in GW to be accepted scientific theory, you're the one being silly.

    I nearly choked on a sip of coffee this morning reading this....Thanks for that...

    Code, as well as myself have been asking you for this list throughout the entire thread, and you ignore, or refuse to link it. This revelation of yours here highlights the utter dishonesty of your tact in debate Joe....You have not done what you claim here, but as long as you write it in the thread you never have to...What a joke...And a waste of time it is trying to have a conversation with you.
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