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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Once again, you fail to comprehend my point.

    Gravity is repeatable, quantifying AGW isn't. It's only a hypothesis until it's repeatable.


    According to Duke University, it's not even a hypothesis.

    http://biology.duke.edu/rausher/HYPOTHES.pdf
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Can you explain why it is when you lose arguments you insist people prove their scientific knowledge? Its almost like you're trying to distract from the point that you're always wrong.


    I believe you referenced that in a previous post.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I haven't heard anyone use the word panic but you guys. More a concern. But if it is a concern, and the concern grows, eventually it will be a panic, or just too late. See how it works?



    You're concerned over the temperature increase of 0.7 degrees in 2000 years or the temperature decrease of 1 degree in 8000?

    I just need to know if I'll need flip flops or snow shoes.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    In Climate Science the "repeatable" requirement of a theory is met by model predictability. If the theory is correct, and the climate mechanisms are that well known, then this would be reflected in the model's ability to predict future climate.

    The models are unable to repeat what we see in the climate data. Ergo the theory has serious problems.


    Not even a hypothesis, but I accept your point.
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No. that's the trouble with the novice, they reach wrong conclusions.


    Must be plenty of novices at NASA.

    How can Hansen spend an entire career trying to sell this stuff and STILL be a novice?
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Why so you guys can tire me out with your homework assignments? You guys pull this bs all the time, not going to fall for it.

    If you have a specific problem with something lay it out and I'll respond. You don't just ask me to do to your bidding to "prove" myself as though it changes the AGW argument. It cares not what I know. This is all so besides the point.


    Why are the predictions wrong if the science is right?
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Read the AR4, they give detailed reports of the impact.


    They post a prediction of between 0.3 to 6.4 degrees.

    You can't be seriously citing this as serious science.

    How did they explain the gross incompetence displayed in the predictions of the previous assessments?
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Originally Posted by jmotivator
    In Climate Science the "repeatable" requirement of a theory is met by model predictability. If the theory is correct, and the climate mechanisms are that well known, then this would be reflected in the model's ability to predict future climate.

    The models are unable to repeat what we see in the climate data. Ergo the theory has serious problems.




    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Show me.

    Okay. Here you go.


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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Who is the foremost expert on the subject?
    Not you.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Reminds me of how Cheney would do an interview with like the NYT and make an asinine statement in there which they'd quote, then in a speech later on would declare that said statement must be true because it was reported in the NYT.


    The connection between cosmic rays and Global Climate as I understand it is not to enhance warming, but to reduce it.

    It helps to form clouds.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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