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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Read the AR4, they give detailed reports of the impact.
    The AR4 is not to be trusted. It's a political lit piece.

    How many of their predictions near term have come true?

    The things they say about the Himalayans are shown to be extremely off.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Why did the warming that we currently enjoy start 150 years before the CO2 started to increase?

    It is you who say that CO2 is causing the warming. I am only asking that you prove it.
    Don't know know...

    If the Enterprise can go back in time, so can CO2...

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't speak for any one but me. But I know what I've read from scientist. Your description would not apply to them. But your politics seems to prevent you from merely accepting the science as the best evidence.
    Nope...Pull the politics, and attempts to create a fiat currency, along with a UN agenda to sap the sovereignty of every country in a global redistribution scheme, coupled with the 'sky is falling' attitude of alarmists cultist that want me to buy candles, use tree bark for toilet paper, and give up meat, and I'll be right there closely following what we can do in the next 500 years to prepare in the eventuality this turns out to be proven.

    Right now though, all I see is my cost of living going up purposely, and angry libs that would make the followers of David Koresh in Waco proud for their devotion, and no transparency at all...Just lies....

    Sorry man. Lies, and schemes usually fail, it is just a matter of when those who have been duped by them wake up and admit it...I await your awakening....
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    My God man...

    A model will be repeatable. Same input, same output. It's just a series of math equations.

    Models do not count. Period. No if, ands, or buts.
    Well, no, not exactly. There is always new data to feed into the model. I realize the problems with the climate models are far deeper than my example, but if the models were of value we should be able to run them over and over with new data and get a result that matches observed climate.

    That is part of proving a theory, matching observation to prediction. In this case observation and prediction diverge so the theory is not proven.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nope...Pull the politics, and attempts to create a fiat currency, along with a UN agenda to sap the sovereignty of every country in a global redistribution scheme, coupled with the 'sky is falling' attitude of alarmists cultist that want me to buy candles, use tree bark for toilet paper, and give up meat, and I'll be right there closely following what we can do in the next 500 years to prepare in the eventuality this turns out to be proven.

    Right now though, all I see is my cost of living going up purposely, and angry libs that would make the followers of David Koresh in Waco proud for their devotion, and no transparency at all...Just lies....

    Sorry man. Lies, and schemes usually fail, it is just a matter of when those who have been duped by them wake up and admit it...I await your awakening....
    I'm sorry, but you've read too much propaganda and really don't spend time learning the actual arguments. And the denier agenda shows that lies can be fairly successful.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:4

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post


    Very interesting take on this.

    He mentioned that Duke is doing work on this stuff. Again, interesting.

    Duke has published papers of those who are not a part of the lock step Diehards. Is it possible that Duke is actually doing real research?
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Is that from my link or yours, and does that mean he still doesn't know more about nuclear weapons than Climate Change?

    The point is, you and J did read the quote wrong. And this is not his field. He, while a bright fellow, is not the foremost expert on the subject. You merely like him because he says what you want to hear.


    Who is the foremost expert on the subject?
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Don't you see the hypocrisy? Those in the field are hacks, terrible people, have an agenda, but the one who says what you want to hear, now he's the end all? Don't you see why that doesn't work for anyone disagreeing with you?


    Those who your present as experts are producing work that undermines their credibility.

    Have you got that accurate prediction yet?
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    What is this, failed attempt #283,389 to pretend AGW is not a theory because of some made up reason. Variables can't be part of a theory now? LoL, when did this happen?


    Please cite one scientific organization that classifies this notion as a Scientific Theory.

    Far from being a theory, this is not even a hypothesis.

    http://biology.duke.edu/rausher/HYPOTHES.pdf
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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Moving the goal posts? What are you upset now that it doesn't claim to be 100% right? Isn't that a reasonable number to give it a 10% chance of being wrong? Isn't that what you want anyway, for people to recognize AGW has a chance of being wrong? I agree there is a small chance. Why does it need to be as good as gravity? What point are you trying to make?


    Have they defined how their assertions can be falsified?
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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