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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Yes, nothing can be proven. It is possible that gravity just hasn't been proven wrong, yet.

    Do not confuse this with the likelihood that gravity is correct. Gravity is a fact because it is easily observed as true by any competent person. Again this doesn't "prove" it 100% We call things true, correct, a fact because of their track record, not because it is impossible to prove them wrong.



    You implied in a previous post that Gravity and AGW are about on a plane in terms of proof and provability. Extending this, also falsifiability.

    Are you saying that there is as much proof to support the notion of AGW as there is to support the Law of Gravity?
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    LoL WAT? Did you read what I said? He said what I said he says. If you're not sure, read it again. If you're still not sure... maybe this isn't your forte.


    He dismisses the entire thrust of AGW which states pretty clearly that CO2 is the PRIME driver of Climate Change. Of course that thrust is nonsense and he dismisses it with excellent foundation.

    You seem to be saying that he accepts the basis os AGW which he does not.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    No, we're not playing your game where you assign me homework while you pick your nose. You take a look at the models yourself and come back with criticisms of them if you like.



    I have looked for the accurate 30 year old prediction and am satisfied that ti does not exist.

    You seem to be pretty sure that the folks who have no clue understand what is happening and can back it up with science.

    I am only asking that you prove your belief. By not presenting what does not exist, I have done my part.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    LoL, your ignorance is breath taking. Just because you don't know any of those things doesn't mean nobody else does either.



    Why did the warming that we currently enjoy start 150 years before the CO2 started to increase?

    It is you who say that CO2 is causing the warming. I am only asking that you prove it.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Then state a panic isn't justified, and not that man doesn't play a role. You waste a lot if time arguing what you agree with if you accept man plays a role. Though, I really don't know any panicking. Suggesting we look for alternative energy sources isn't panic, but rather logical thinking.


    If I happen to urinate into the ocean, I am contributing to the sea level rising.

    The question is how much.

    If the rise of the temperature is 0.7 degrees in 2000 years, and it is, and the contribution to that increase by man is negligible, and it is, then why the fuss?

    Did you know that the increase in temperature from the year 0 to the year 100o is greater than the increase fro the year 1000 to the year 2000?
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Not mad... but why would you think "relevant" meant that I was claiming that I have read every document ever published on climate change? Common sense would tell you that I was referring to the foundational material that can be browsed in a few days.

    You've taken these courses and you know about science, yet you buddy with code and like all of his posts? The guy emits anti-science nonsense. This makes little sense.


    Relevant does have a particular meaning. We know from the rigged survey that revealed that 32% of scientists endorse AGW that there are at least 12,000 papers written on this topic.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    How can you read that link and come away with this conclusion? What kind of madness goes on in your head??? I am absolutely shocked, what is wrong with you? The first paragraph lays it all out. There are 125 cited sources. What else could you possibly need to make the connection?



    Is there circus music playing?
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    That's every thread. If you do his homework, he whines about it not being good enough anyway.


    Like you, he is asking me to support his case with information that does not exist, but that he claims does exist.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    The estimate is a range. If you understood statistics you would see that the extremes are very unlikely however possible. Flip a coin 10 times, there is a chance you will get an extreme scenario in which 8 are heads and 2 are tails, however it is unlikely. You will likely get between 4-6 heads and tails. They also give the "likely" estimate which has a much smaller range.


    Then why don't they say this?

    Why not say that the science is clear and settled and the temperature will rise by a specified amount in the next 100 years?

    They don't know, can't figure it out and so they give a range that will include the actual no matter how clueless they are.

    It is a lesson taken from Hansen, but Hansen missed even with his huge range of error. I suspect that is why the have the bottom prediction at .3 degrees.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Feel free to let us all in on this secret.


    Was it you or Boo who said that the models were the falsifiable part of AGW science. Since they have all been falsified, the notion is disproven.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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