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Applebee’s fires waitress who posted receipt from pastor complaining about[W: 55]

i would have fired her ass in a heartbeat for targeting a customer.
 
justabubba said:
and if you cannot afford the tip, then you cannot afford the meal, and should not eat there
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Heheh, it's not about affording the tip, it's about how tipping which is supposed to be discretionary, is not anymore. Servers expect 18% even if the service is bad.
 
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Harshaw said:
That's bull****, of a kind you don't usually spew. You're rather emotional here, which is also unusual.

Many times in this thread I said the pastor was a jerk. I even mocked her little note.

But what I say, I base on the fact that every single person on this Earth is a jerk on some days. Do you want to be judged by one of your slip-ups being posted on the Internet, and have everyone and their brother assume you're a horrible, horrible person? That's what you're doing here.

And do you want that kind of hatred coming down on someone in the name of your company?
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You know what bothers me most about what the pastor did? She brought the religion that she and I presumably share into it and brought God up as a reason to not share her money. If I read the receipt correctly, she even signed it as "Pastor". That's a terrible example. If she had just not tipped and left some mean comment on the receipt unrelated to her faith, I'd probably agree with you more, but, to me, it's worse because she's supposed to exemplify the love and generosity of Christ, and not only to those who are in her congregation.

I don't think the Pastor's a bad person. I don't know her. She did say in the article she was embarrassed. It looks to me like she's getting a much deserved and needed lesson in humility. I hope she takes it to heart and learns from this.
 
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Fisher said:
i would have fired her ass in a heartbeat for targeting a customer.
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I haven't commented on this but I agree, she went public and shouldn't have.

But this illustrates the entitlement mentality of some servers to their 18%.
 
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X Factor said:
She brought the religion that she and I presumably share into it and brought God up as a reason to not share her money. If I read the receipt correctly, she even signed it as "Pastor". That's a terrible example. If she had just not tipped and left some mean comment on the receipt unrelated to her faith, I'd probably agree with you more, but, to me, it's worse because she's supposed to exemplify the love of Christ.
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It's also that stupid decision of hers which got the receipt posted online. Had she decided to just be a douche, it wouldn't have become a story. But she decided to be a douche in God's name.
 
MaggieD said:
I've never seen a restaurant insist on that. I've seen them ask their diners to do it, but never seen it be mandatory. I like being a generous tipper. Servers work hard for their money. They deserve it. I overtip off-setting others who think like you do -- so that waitstaff can make a decent living.
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I'm a big tipper. I don't like it being mandatory. Sometimes they don't deserve it. It's not my obligation to insure ANYONE makes a decent living, that's up to them. At a low end restaurant I will usually throw in a couple extra bucks. At a high end restaurant, even though the service is almost always exceptional, I wonder why the server got $25-30 while the server at the Coco's last week who worked just as hard got 5.
 
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X Factor said:
You know what bothers me most about what the pastor did? She brought the religion that she and I presumably share into it and brought God up as a reason to not share her money. If I read the receipt correctly, she even signed it as "Pastor". That's a terrible example. If she had just not tipped and left some mean comment on the receipt unrelated to her faith, I'd probably agree with you more, but, to me, it's worse because she's supposed to exemplify the love and generosity of Christ, and not only to those who are in her congregation.

I don't think the Pastor's a bad person. I don't know her. She did say in the article she was embarrassed. It looks to me like she's getting a much deserved and needed lesson in humility. I hope she takes it to heart and learns from this.
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Tucker Case said:
It's also that stupid decision of hers which got the receipt posted online. Had she decided to just be a douche, it wouldn't have become a story. But she decided to be a douche in God's name.
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I don't disagree in principle with either of you, and you both manage to discuss it rationally and coolly. Again, note where I mocked what she said about giving "God" 10%.

But in truth, if the only thing I knew I about Gardener was his behavior in THIS thread (especially his hissyfit about me giving her a "pass" because she's a Christian pastor and in my "eyes" that means she can do no wrong), I would take my business to one of his competitors.
 
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Tucker Case said:
It's also that stupid decision of hers which got the receipt posted online. Had she decided to just be a douche, it wouldn't have become a story. But she decided to be a douche in God's name.
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I agree, Tuck. It's the apparent hypocrisy that makes the story.
 
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Tucker Case said:
It's also that stupid decision of hers which got the receipt posted online. Had she decided to just be a douche, it wouldn't have become a story. But she decided to be a douche in God's name.
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X Factor said:
I agree, Tuck. It's the apparent hypocrisy that makes the story.
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me too, I third this!
 
Objective-J said:
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back up link: Give a snarky quip (and no tip) and thy receipt shall end up on the internet – Eatocracy - CNN.com Blogs

Do you think the pastor was a jerk? YEP absolutely
Do you think the waitress should have been fired. Tough call, depends on the employee handbook, i wouldnt have fired her but at the same time not sure i can point to anything saying she shouldnt have been fired.

I would have suspended her and thats it.
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I don't think she did anything wrong. What she does in her personal life has nothing to do with her job.
 
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X Factor said:
I agree, Tuck. It's the apparent hypocrisy that makes the story.
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I wonder how long she's been doing it.

If the service was bad, real bad, like cold food, a long wait, mixed up orders, not checking for refills, slapping the bill down before asking about dessert (to turn the table), I could see not leaving a tip at all. I think I've done that once in my life. But to use God as your justification is just plain creepy.
 
Mr.Nick said:
I don't think she did anything wrong. What she does in her personal life has nothing to do with her job.
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I cant go there with you 100%

i personally dont think she did anything wrong but what she did clearly involves her work.I personally would NEVER fire her unless i was forced but I cant say what she did was her own personal business either.
 
Mr.Nick said:
I don't think she did anything wrong. What she does in her personal life has nothing to do with her job.
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Seriously? Really...seriously?
 
BTW, no one has mentioned the elephant in the room....
 
spanky said:
But this illustrates the entitlement mentality of some servers to their 18%.
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Actually this illustrates your assumption that this server didn't do a superb job at serving this pastor and just got stiffed. We don't know about her service to make an assumption that she just felt "entitled".

What we do know is the Pastor acting like an asshole and the server responded in an assholish way.
 
A huge number of retail customers are very difficult to deal with these days, accepting that fact is a responsibility of anyone who deals with the public.

The waitress hurt business by embarrassing a customer and possibly exposing the business to legal liability. Those in the congregation that like their pastor will not longer go to that restaurant. No business can long afford to employ someone like her. Businesses need people that will advance the interests of the business.
 
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Unless the tip is specifically stated will be added, it can not. We do sometimes go to Applebee's and there is NOT an automatic 18% tip nor is this stated on the menu.

So this was just a trick add-on, for people who (like us) do not audit restaurant checks - meaning off course then a double tip - the secret one just added on AND what is left at the table. Anothers words for that is "fraud and theft."
 
TheNextEra said:
Actually this illustrates your assumption that this server didn't do a superb job at serving this pastor and just got stiffed. We don't know about her service to make an assumption that she just felt "entitled".

What we do know is the Pastor acting like an asshole and the server responded in an assholish way.
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It did nothing of the sort. Anyway, the Pastor said they added the 18% on to the credit card anyway. So the server got her 18% she was hysterical that a patron would have the gall to question her 18%.

Entitlement mentality.
 
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joko104 said:
Unless the tip is specifically stated will be added, it can not. We do sometimes go to Applebee's and there is NOT an automatic 18% tip nor is this stated on the menu.

So this was just a trick add-on, for people who (like us) do not audit restaurant checks - meaning off course then a double tip - the secret one just added on AND what is left at the table. Anothers words for that is "fraud and theft."
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I've done that before, with a large group and one picking up the check you don't always notice it. I discovered it when I got back home and checked it.

Oh ya, the server nor restaurant deducted the double tip knowing it was an error, they just assumed we wanted to tip 36% on a large bill.
 
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Harshaw said:
I don't disagree in principle with either of you, and you both manage to discuss it rationally and coolly. Again, note where I mocked what she said about giving "God" 10%.
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It's true, you haven't excused the actions of the pastor.

But in truth, if the only thing I knew I about Gardener was his behavior in THIS thread (especially his hissyfit about me giving her a "pass" because she's a Christian pastor and in my "eyes" that means she can do no wrong), I would take my business to one of his competitors.
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Gardener's just always had a passionate belief that people should live up to what they claim they believe. (So there's no misunderstanding, I'm referring to the pastor's failure to do so here, not you).
 
Ray410 said:
The waitress hurt business by embarrassing a customer and possibly exposing the business to legal liability. Those in the congregation that like their pastor will not longer go to that restaurant.
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I would and if that waitress still worked there, I'd apologize to her for my Pastor's behavior and give her the tip myself.
 
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X Factor said:
Gardener's just always had a passionate belief that people should live up to what they claim they believe.
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Which he completely failed to do himself, vis-a-vis, me. :shrug: If the same standard were to be applied to him as is apparently being applied to the pastor . . .
 
Mr.Nick said:
I don't think she did anything wrong. What she does in her personal life has nothing to do with her job.
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Would you feel the same if she wrote insulting things about her employer on a website?
 
spanky said:
Entitlement mentality.
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Entitlement mentality means wanting 18% for doing nothing. What is your evidence that the waitress didn't do her job satisfactory to an 18% expectance?
 
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