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    Re: University of Michigan Kicks Christian Club off Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    because the federal bureaucrats, charged with making sure non-discrimination laws are enforced at publicly funded institutions will put a hold on the university's federal funds if it is found the university knowingly tolerated opportunities for discrimination - even mild ones such as this
    That's it. Why is the University, or the State, messing in religion? It really is none of their business. Their intrusion does not lend to diversity at all. In their efforts to be non discriminatory they are doing just the opposite.

    I'm sure other clubs will just acknowledge the rule and then ignore it but this group took a stand on, they feel, the side of honesty. Stupid laws make everyone dishonest.

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    Re: University of Michigan Kicks Christian Club off Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why is the University, or the State, messing in religion?
    They aren't. They are regulating University Sponsored clubs and organizations, some of which happen to have religious themes.
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    Re: University of Michigan Kicks Christian Club off Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's it. Why is the University, or the State, messing in religion?
    They aren't, they are enforcing rules for Campus sponsored clubs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It really is none of their business.
    Since the Campus has non-discriminatory rules to follow, it is every bit their business if they are sponsoring the clubs by having them on Campus. Sorry you don't like it.

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    Re: University of Michigan Kicks Christian Club off Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Then you have unreasonable demands, which fits with your imaginary scenario you've been arguing about this entire thread.

    This SINGULAR Christian club is not recognized because they were informed their bylaws violated rules they agreed to adhere to by being a sanctioned club on campus and refused to change those bylaws.

    16+ other Christian clubs along with a handful of muslim, jew, and hindu clubs ALL function perfectly fine on the campus, adhering to those rules, and thus they are allowed to stay on.

    One club broke the rules required for campus sanctioning.

    All the other clubs didn't break the rules required for campus sanctioning.

    As such, the club that broke the rule lost campus sanctioning and the ones that didn't break it are still sanctoined.

    This is no different than if a business chooses to break the rules regaridng how to serve alcohol in their resturant and other businesses followed the rules. The business that breaks the rules, and refuses to stop breaking the rules, loses their business liscense. The ones that follow the rules keep their business liscense.

    IF clearly, wantonly, and defiently breaking a rule that is REQUIRED to be recognized as a club by the campus and is needed due to federal discrimination laws is not a reasonable reason to not recognize the club as santioned by the Campus then there's literally no pleasing you because you're not being reasonable, logical, or rational. But that was demonstrated in the notion that you were claiming this group was singled out due to discriminatory actoins and bias.
    I'm insane?

    You don't even comprehend "singular?" how the **** can a group be singular???

    I'm not even going to bother reading your drivel.

    Your credibility ended with you calling a collective a singular entity - and in bold. If you're incapable of using correct language to describe your "beef" then don't bother...

    Flippin' pathetic.

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    Re: University of Michigan Kicks Christian Club off Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What the **** does any of that mean or apply to the argument at hand?

    I'm all for changing the topic, but not in this fashion - especially when you're putting words in my mouth and displaying my posts out of context in an attempt to suit your agenda.
    It has to do with your attempts to claim people aren't "understanding your points" and it's important because your earlier points in this thread are the basis for which much of your current points, and specifically the conclussions you are reaching with those points, are based off of.

    The posting of your posts wasn't out of context, it clearly demonstrated the context of the points you've been making all thread long. Ridiculous, factually incorrect, points based off complete and utter ignorance of the topic at hand.

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    Re: University of Michigan Kicks Christian Club off Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    how the **** can a group be singular???
    "Group" indicates a collection of people or things which are recognized as a single entity.
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    Re: University of Michigan Kicks Christian Club off Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Your alleged research into Islam and my deep understanding of Christianity which is vastly superior to the understanding of most Christians is actually a subject you decided to bring up at random.



    Out of interest, of course. What other reason is there to learn things? Nobody has to learn things. Millions of college students each year prove that.



    When did you do that?

    What do you know?

    Feel free to continue to insult me but I have a life and have to bounce to live it. I have to bounce.

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    Re: University of Michigan Kicks Christian Club off Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I have to bounce.
    Translation: "I have to run away since people are using logic against me".

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    Re: University of Michigan Kicks Christian Club off Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What do you know?
    In general? Lots of stuff. Do you want a complete list, cause that's going to take a while.

    Feel free to continue to insult me but I have a life and have to bounce to live it. I have to bounce.
    Trust me, if I wanted to insult you, it would be very obvious and I'd report myself to the mods immediately afterward. I am happy to post examples of times I have done this in the past if you doubt the veracity of this claim.

    If you feel insulted, however, it is because your ideas are deeply flawed and you are incapable of presenting a cogent defense of them.
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    Re: University of Michigan Kicks Christian Club off Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'm insane?

    You don't even comprehend "singular?" how the **** can a group be singular???

    I'm not even going to bother reading your drivel.

    Your credibility ended with you calling a collective a singular entity - and in bold. If you're incapable of using correct language to describe your "beef" then don't bother...

    Flippin' pathetic.
    The Club, as an entity, is ONE club. Just like the Chicago Bears are a SINGULAR team amongst the 32 in the NFL. Just like pasta is a SINGULAR type of "Grain based food". Just like December 25th is a SINGULAR day of the Year. Just like Christianity is a SINGULAR faith amongst the world religions.

    Yes, the Bears team is made up of multiple individuals. Yes, there are multiple types of pastas like Rigatoni or Capellini. Yes there are multiple seconds, minutes, and hours that make up the day of "December 25th". And yes, there are a multitude of various denominations of Christianity.

    However, when speaking about them on a more macro scale, where one is talking about the over all grouping rather than it's individual portions, it's correct to refer to the things as a singular entity.

    ONE christian club had their campus approval removed for violating rules regarding clubs. Sixteen or more Christian clubs still have their campus approval because they didn't violate the rules regarding clubs.

    This wasn't targetting "Christians", this wasn't singling out "Christians", at best it was singling out a group that refused to follow the rules.

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