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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Breaking a contract between a consumer and supplier has historically never been in criminal law. How about instead of saying that it's all the same, you give actual reasons as to why it should be a 5 year prison sentence and a $500k fine. It's the exact reason we said it was, because lobbyists wanted it that way.
    Breaking a contract sure has been criminal. Try breaking your att&t contract and then don't pay the bill. It goes to collections and then legal.

    As for why I think it should be a 5 year prison sentence or $500k fine, the answer is.......I don't. I don't think there should be penalties for many things that are like pot smoking, speeding, etc. However, they are there nonetheless.

    I simply find it amusing that righties like to get on their soapbox and complain about Potsmokers breaking the law and right here are righties that support breaking the law when THEY feel it is ok. Amusing is all to me.

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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It's funny watching all the righties supporting breaking the law.
    I'm not supporting anything at this point, but the Left is always up in arms over Corporate America screwing the little guy............except now.
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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Breaking a contract sure has been criminal. Try breaking your att&t contract and then don't pay the bill. It goes to collections and then legal.

    As for why I think it should be a 5 year prison sentence or $500k fine, the answer is.......I don't. I don't think there should be penalties for many things that are like pot smoking, speeding, etc. However, they are there nonetheless.

    I simply find it amusing that righties like to get on their soapbox and complain about Potsmokers breaking the law and right here are righties that support breaking the law when THEY feel it is ok. Amusing is all to me.
    You're confusing tort and criminal law. Contract violations are torts - civil wrongs - and they fall under a completely different set of laws than criminal law, i.e. felonies and misdemeanors. They are heard in completely different courts that operate under completely different rules. That's not to say that you can't go to jail for tort violations. There was such a thing a debtor's prisons at one time afterall.

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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Breaking a contract sure has been criminal. Try breaking your att&t contract and then don't pay the bill. It goes to collections and then legal.

    As for why I think it should be a 5 year prison sentence or $500k fine, the answer is.......I don't. I don't think there should be penalties for many things that are like pot smoking, speeding, etc. However, they are there nonetheless.

    I simply find it amusing that righties like to get on their soapbox and complain about Potsmokers breaking the law and right here are righties that support breaking the law when THEY feel it is ok. Amusing is all to me.
    I'm against all laws that don't have a victim, especially drug laws. However, speeding, smoking, assault, all of those things are under criminal law. Breaking a contract is not a criminal offense. It goes to collections, where your credit will be destroyed, or they may enlist help from the government to take the money from your account. In no situation does anyone ever go to jail over a consumer - producer contract. So please, explain to me why this should be the one exception to the rule.


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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    My problem is that for as much as they charge you for a telephone, even if it is at "special rate", then it is your phone regardless of what their fine print says. The next time mine breaks after I am out of my contract I am switching to straight talk or one of those jobbies. I am sick of AT&T already.
    Prepaid is much better imo.
    I've got Metro PCS, just bought a newer smart phone from their 4g line up.
    The phone was $100 + I have a $50 mail in rebate.
    The service for unlimited calling, text and 2.5gigs of 4g is $50.

    The contract carriers can't beat that.
    Was an ATT customer for years.
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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'm not supporting anything at this point, but the Left is always up in arms over Corporate America screwing the little guy............except now.
    And the right is always up in arms over people breaking the law, except now.

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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Prepaid is much better imo.
    I've got Metro PCS, just bought a newer smart phone from their 4g line up.
    The phone was $100 + I have a $50 mail in rebate.
    The service for unlimited calling, text and 2.5gigs of 4g is $50.

    The contract carriers can't beat that.
    Was an ATT customer for years.
    Yeah I broke my phone about a year ago and it was when I did not have time to figure it all out so I renewed my contract with ATT for 2 years to save a couple hundred bucks. Come next year, I am switching. I have no problem with their service--it is just the heavy handed way the try to force you into their contract that annoys me.

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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Yeah I broke my phone about a year ago and it was when I did not have time to figure it all out so I renewed my contract with ATT for 2 years to save a couple hundred bucks. Come next year, I am switching. I have no problem with their service--it is just the heavy handed way the try to force you into their contract that annoys me.
    You pay more up front for the phone, but you more than make up for it, in the service costs.
    Metro doesn't have as wide of coverage as ATT, but I don't care, as I rarely travel outside of their network.

    ATT can suck nuts, as fair as I'm concerned, I over paid them for services for way too long.
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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    It is certainly contradictory to public policy and the free right to contract when businesses can impose such predatory contracts on people. Certain pieces of technology are a necessary part of life. Cell phones are a part of that, as are cars and internet capable computers. The companies that gate access to these technologies have a completely unconscionable disparity of power in any kind of contract negotiation. It is not right nor beneficial to society that a few private interests be able to exercise so much power over the public. Predatory contracts like those employed by call carriers oughtn't to be permitted. And using criminal prosecution to protect the power of these businesses is absolutely contrary to personal liberty.
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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You pay more up front for the phone, but you more than make up for it, in the service costs.
    Metro doesn't have as wide of coverage as ATT, but I don't care, as I rarely travel outside of their network.

    ATT can suck nuts, as fair as I'm concerned, I over paid them for services for way too long.
    I am actually a little lucky--ATT is cheaper for me than straight talk or other providers right now. I had a lifetime rate guarantee with another provider as long as I did not change my service package that AT&T has to honor since they bought out that company just after they gave me this great deal. I never even use anything close to my package limits.

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