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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You own the phone (if indeed you do own the phone) and the SOFTWARE instance that, among other things, makes it connect to that infrastructure. There are a number of different softwares that use connections to that infrastructure. Unlocking doesn't affect that dynamic.
    No, you don't own the software. You merely are licensed to use the software
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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Agreed. As a side issue, I don't believe it's in th public's interest to allow the phone giants to lock in exclusivity like that. If they wish to give away a free phone in exchange for you exclusively using their network, fine. But it should always be the case that, if you buy the phone, own it outright, you can choose to use whatever network you wish.
    I disagree. If you are under contract with one carrier, and then unlock your phone so that you can access the infrastructure of another carrier, then you are using that other carrier's infrastructure without paying for what that carrier's customers would be paying for. That is theft.

    NOTE: If you feel that your carrier is reaming you on charges, there is a simple solution. Choose another carrier. Might not be as good as unlocking your phone, but it's legal.
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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Agreed. As a side issue, I don't believe it's in the public's interest to allow the phone giants to lock in exclusivity like that. If they wish to give away a free phone in exchange for you exclusively using their network, fine. But it should always be the case that, if you buy the phone, own it outright, you can choose to use whatever network you wish.
    I think that the "public interest" is a valid argument, but unfortunately the pro-corporate SCOTUS is unlikely to see it that way
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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    "Unlocking Cell Phones Will Be Illegal In The US Starting Saturday
    Yannick LeJacq | January 25 2013 11:58 AM


    The practice of configuring a mobile phone to avoid specific carrier network restrictions known as “unlocking” will become illegal in the U.S. on Saturday. (1-26-13)................

    The Librarian of Congress has the power to determine what exemptions can be allowed to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, or DMCA. But as Mashable reports, technology activists are beginning to question the law and the amount of discretion that the Librarian of Congress was granted to determine its application.

    "Unlocking" a phone essentially involves removing security features that keep the phone locked into a particular mobile carrier network; once unlocked, a phone can therefore work across multiple carrier networks. ...for users travelling internationally, it allows them to use their phones across different networks without racking up exorbitant carrier fees."
    Ah yes, even more laws created by a government that values corporate interests over citizen's rights. 'Merica. Land of the free my ass.
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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The contract you agree to when you subscribe to a carrier makes such modifications an abrogation of your contractual duties.
    Yes. Which carries a penalty of paying for the rest of my phone.

    I dont think you guys get it. You can go to jail for violating the DMCA by modifying your own property. Even under contract, you own the phone.

    The bull**** part is how they decide im only licensing the software. Thats like saying im licensing a steering wheel from Honda.

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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes. Which carries a penalty of paying for the rest of my phone.

    I dont think you guys get it. You can go to jail for violating the DMCA by modifying your own property. Even under contract, you own the phone.

    The bull**** part is how they decide im only licensing the software. Thats like saying im licensing a steering wheel from Honda.
    Yes, you owm the phone. You dont own the software.

    The way "they" decide you're only licensing the software is that you agree that you are only licensing the software when you agree to the carriers contract
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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, you owm the phone. You dont own the software.

    The way "they" decide you're only licensing the software is that you agree that you are only licensing the software when you agree to the carriers contract
    If every single auto manufacturer said you can only license the gas pedal, and they get to decide which roads and how fast the pedal works on, and you can be jailed for driving out of network, you'd throw a fit.

    Add a spoiler? Jail. Repaint it? Jail. Tires other than manufacturer-approved? Jail.

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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Trying pretty hard to keep me from switching to a new company is all this is.

    Guess I will need to stay with my old provider to avoid getting into a new long term contract.

    Isn't it a shame that I couldn't just keep using that perfectly good phone(which I own now)with different carrier.
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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    a better question, will such a law even be enforceable at any significant level?

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    Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Now Illegal In The US

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If every single auto manufacturer said you can only license the gas pedal, and they get to decide which roads and how fast the pedal works on, and you can be jailed for driving out of network, you'd throw a fit.

    Add a spoiler? Jail. Repaint it? Jail. Tires other than manufacturer-approved? Jail.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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