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    Deadly Alabama school bus shooting leads to standoff with suspect, 6-year-old

    Deadly Alabama school bus shooting leads to standoff with suspect, 6-year-old - CBS News
    MIDLAND CITY, ALA. Police SWAT teams and hostage negotiators were locked in a standoff Wednesday with a gunman authorities say intercepted a school bus, killed the driver, snatched a 6-year-old boy and retreated into a bunker at his home with the kindergartener.

    The gunman, identified by neighbors as Jimmy Lee Dykes, a 65-year-old retired truck driver, was known as a menacing figure who once beat a dog to death with a lead pipe, threatened to shoot children for setting foot on his property and patrolled his yard at night with a flashlight and a shotgun.

    He had been scheduled to appear in court Wednesday morning to answer charges he shot at his neighbors in a dispute last month over a speed bump.

    The standoff dragged on through the night and into the afternoon Wednesday after the gunman boarded a stopped school bus filled with children in the small town of Midland City, population 2,300, on Tuesday afternoon, authorities said.

    Sheriff Wally Olsen said the man shot the bus driver when he refused to hand over a 6-year-old child. The gunman then took the kindergartener away.

    Dykes was believed to be holed up with the boy in an underground bunker of the sort used to take shelter from a tornado.

    CBS affiliate WTVY-TV in the nearby town of Dothan reports that contact has been made with the unidentified child and that the hostage is safe, but still being held captive. Police were communicating through a PVC pipe in the bunker.

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    Re: Deadly Alabama school bus shooting leads to standoff with suspect, 6-year-old

    This is the most disturbing story. It takes an extremely low and pathetic person to kidnap a 6 year old. I hope the kid makes it out alright.
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    I live in Central Alabama, and of course this is all of the news.

    Apparently the man is Jimmy Lee Dykes. He is a deranged Vietnam Veteran and a Doomsday Prepper. The bunker he is in is likely able to take any sort of weapon...I wouldn't doubt a ventilation system with underground air filtration systems. The thought of gassing it is out of the question.

    These so-called negotiators are not using smart tactics. Dykes has an extreme distrust of Police and the government. He is very Anti-Government from all accounts. He does NOT recognize the authority.

    He probably has enough supplies to last a long time in that bunker....this situation is very dire to say the least.

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    What "smart" tactics do you advise the negotiators should use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    What "smart" tactics do you advise the negotiators should use?
    Something other than "COME OUT AND TALK! WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE!"

    That won't work...these negotiators sound local...the FBI needs to send a team there to negotiate
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    I am praying for the six year old, a damn shame. What kind of nut case builds an end of the world bunker, I mean really?
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    Re: Deadly Alabama school bus shooting leads to standoff with suspect, 6-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    I live in Central Alabama, and of course this is all of the news.

    Apparently the man is Jimmy Lee Dykes. He is a deranged Vietnam Veteran and a Doomsday Prepper. The bunker he is in is likely able to take any sort of weapon...I wouldn't doubt a ventilation system with underground air filtration systems. The thought of gassing it is out of the question.
    Says they are communicating via a PVC pipe. Not sure how well that would work if it was using an activated carbon filter. Although maybe that is an exhaust pipe and he has a positive pressure in there.

    In any case though it would be very risky to use gas. Anything that knocked him out fast enough not to hurt the kid would be very dangerous for a six year-old to breath.

    When Putin had that theater gassed a number of years back it killed a number of the adult hostages along with knocking out the hostage takers.

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    What "smart" tactics do you advise the negotiators should use?
    Sneak in and place a 1 inch shot group center mass.
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    Re: Deadly Alabama school bus shooting leads to standoff with suspect, 6-year-old

    A bus driver trained to use a firearm just like a security guard might have made a difference.
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