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    Re: Deadly Alabama school bus shooting leads to standoff with suspect, 6-year-old

    This will not end well.

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    Re: Deadly Alabama school bus shooting leads to standoff with suspect, 6-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    This will not end well.
    Realistically, the odds are against a good outcome. I wonder if they could breach the access point and simultaneously deploy something like a M84 stun grenade through the pipe. It would be a huge risk, but at least with the limited information we have, going in looks like the only chance for a happy ending.
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    Re: Deadly Alabama school bus shooting leads to standoff with suspect, 6-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    Realistically, the odds are against a good outcome. I wonder if they could breach the access point and simultaneously deploy something like a M84 stun grenade through the pipe. It would be a huge risk, but at least with the limited information we have, going in looks like the only chance for a happy ending.
    About the kids only chance appears to be if he bonds with the guy which is unlikely given his mental state. Other than that IDK. If the pipe had no screen and it were better weather, I'd toss cups of ants or a yellow jackets nest into the pipe before I'd drop a stun grenade in, or maybe pump something in that might effect him before the kid like carbon monoxide or something. It is a tough tough call. My guess is that if they try something, they would distract the man at the pipe, breach the door, and if the pipe were a straight shot, try popping a few rounds of buckshot into his face when he was talking to them.

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    Re: Alabama Hostage Standoff: Alleged Kidnapper Has Stayed in Bunker for 8 Days

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    I hope the little boy comes out of this safely.
    I hope the kid comes out safely and the hostage taker killed.
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    Re: Deadly Alabama school bus shooting leads to standoff with suspect, 6-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    I think the lack of updates and information is being requested by the police, because they know he has a TV and don't want him to hear anything that could affect their negotiations. I'm hoping they are making progress and just can't say anything yet.
    Wise assumption. Then I'm glad he isn't getting the ego stroke of seeing himself on the news nonstop for what he's done and doing.
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    Re: Deadly Alabama school bus shooting leads to standoff with suspect, 6-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Well if he is talking into a tube...you don't need a 1 shoot out. Just one shot. But idk if he is putting his mouth at the tube or not.

    Idk though. This is tough. There really doesn't seem to be an answer to this.
    Yes, I don't know if that would be possible or not. You can pretty much count on this guy putting the gun in his own mouth and pulling the trigger before this is done.

    So I think you almost have to do something other than to wait for him to kill the kid and them himself.

    Damn , we can put a man on the moon but can't get a kid out a bunker.

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    Re: Deadly Alabama school bus shooting leads to standoff with suspect, 6-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Yes, I don't know if that would be possible or not. You can pretty much count on this guy putting the gun in his own mouth and pulling the trigger before this is done.

    So I think you almost have to do something other than to wait for him to kill the kid and them himself.

    Damn , we can put a man on the moon but can't get a kid out a bunker.
    I can't imagine the stress that is on the negotiators and rescue team.

    This "exclusive" daily mail article provides lots of details: EXCLUSIVE: Alabama 'survivalist killer' Jimmy Lee Dykes wants a reporter sent into his bunker to tell his story in exchange for releasing his 5-year-old hostage | Mail Online. Clearly it has to be taken with a grain of salt, but some of it seems probable. Among other things, it says that Hostage negotiators are now communicating with Dykes via a ‘throw phone.' and that the door is believed to be booby traped.

    The phone would seem to indicate that the pipe is not filtered.

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    Re: Deadly Alabama school bus shooting leads to standoff with suspect, 6-year-old

    It is day 5 of the holding of the young 5 yr old boy.
    Perhaps the police have developed some kind of rapport with the murderer. They can hear the kid crying for his parents and that is a good sign he is still alive.
    Am hoping they can gain his trust and coax him to come out with the boy.

    So this is a prime example of someone with a gun who shouldn't had one. How do we honestly say who fits that classification. He was reported to patrol his property at night with a flashlight and rifle walking from corner to corner.
    Someone that paranoia suggest instability.

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    Re: Deadly Alabama school bus shooting leads to standoff with suspect, 6-year-old

    Heard a news report that said the shooter was a survivalist and anti-government. Now there is a surprise!
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    Re: Deadly Alabama school bus shooting leads to standoff with suspect, 6-year-old

    Sheriff thanks suspect for taking care of boy - Yahoo! News

    MIDLAND CITY, Ala. (AP) — Authorities said Saturday that they still have an open line of communication with an Alabama man accused of abducting a 5-year-old boy and holding him hostage in a bunker, and they thanked the suspect for taking care of the child as the standoff marked its fifth day.

    Dale County Sheriff Wally Olson said in a briefing with reporters that Jimmy Lee Dykes has told them he has blankets and an electric heater in the bunker. Olson said Dykes has allowed authorities to deliver coloring books, medication and toys for the boy.

    "I want to thank him for taking care of our boy," Olson said. "That's very important."
    Odd comments to be making by the Sheriff - I trust that there is some underlying logic here - anything....
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