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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight View Post
    *facepalm* First, what makes it a wrong question? Keep in mind that this is not a mutually exclusive thing.

    Second, you have been expounding not asking any of the questions. See how very, very dumb a response that was on their part…unless the NRA expected uncomfortable answers. Because if you are looking to sell snake oil the more ignorance there is the better.


    Why, then?
    Keep ignoring the real questions just like your liberal pals and we will end up with more useless laws that get more people killed.
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Then make that argument and not that it reduces crime.
    Well explain how I knew exactly what he was talking about but you didn't? It is not his job to teach you how comprehend a simple concept.
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    Keep ignoring the real questions just like your liberal pals and we will end up with more useless laws that get more people killed.
    “Keep ignoring the real questions” he says, as ignores my [very real] questions.

    What questions am I ignoring?

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    Well explain how I knew exactly what he was talking about but you didn't? It is not his job to teach you how comprehend a simple concept.
    It's everyone's job. Too much gets decided based on mistaken reasoning.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    All those have to do with after the fact penalties. We also need to develop better preventative measures. Building more prisons doesn't solve the problem and cost more taxpayer dollars than preventative measures.
    after the fact penalties are part and parcel of "innocent until proven guilty"....prisons are part of that too..... i'll take it you are not a fan of that doctrine?

    you better build more prisons... your side is trying your damnedest to make more criminals and you'll need to house them somewhere

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    after the fact penalties are part and parcel of "innocent until proven guilty"....prisons are part of that too..... i'll take it you are not a fan of that doctrine?

    you better build more prisons... your side is trying your damnedest to make more criminals and you'll need to house them somewhere
    I don't think that is what he is saying. If there is some sound prevention, it might not be a bad idea to try and identify such measures.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

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    Former congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., who was shot in the head more than two years ago during a mass shooting in a Tucson parking lot, opened the Senate Judiciary Committee's hearing Wednesday with a call to action on gun violence.

    "Speaking is difficult but I need to say something important," she said in a slow, deliberate voice to the dais of senators. "Violence is a big problem, too many children are dying, too many children. We must do something.
    "Americans are counting on you," she said.
    - Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    As I was reading the article I came across a perfect example of what I feel the problem is with the "gun restriction" crowed...

    Giffords husband astronaut Mark Kelly, added this statement paraphrased...

    "Called for legislators to close the loophole that allows private sellers to sell their guns without background checks, strengthen gun trafficking penalties for trafficking, and eliminate limitations on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to study gun violence.

    He also called for "a careful and civil conversation about the lethality of the firearms we permit to be legally bought and sold.
    "

    What does the center for disease control have to do with gun crime? This should worry people as they are trying to use a completely unrelated government body to manufacture, yes manufacture another reason to strip our 2nd amendment rights.

    The last highlighted statement is just beyond stupid as far as I am concerned. If I am at the point where I am actually aiming a weapon at someone in defense of my life, loved ones or even property I want it to be as lethal as possible if it has come to that point. So only police and government should have "lethal" firearms?

    This whole gun restriction mess is getting out of hand.
    I don't care if it reduces crime, increases crime or a mix of the two.
    I'm not in favor of having my rights restricted.

    We don't restrict speech further, because people make threats of violence or say mean things to each other, that may cause more violence.
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    after the fact penalties are part and parcel of "innocent until proven guilty"....prisons are part of that too..... i'll take it you are not a fan of that doctrine?

    you better build more prisons... your side is trying your damnedest to make more criminals and you'll need to house them somewhere

    hopefully, by that time we will have released those convicted of victimless crimes so that there will be ample room for those who violate the stiffer and better enforced gun laws
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight View Post
    “Keep ignoring the real questions” he says, as ignores my [very real] questions.

    What questions am I ignoring?
    I was talking about the questions in your article, not any questions you had, you had none.
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I don't care if it reduces crime, increases crime or a mix of the two.
    I'm not in favor of having my rights restricted.

    We don't restrict speech further, because people make threats of violence or say mean things to each other, that may cause more violence.
    Don't try and make sense, it only confuses them more.
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