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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That's the whole point, currently in 40 states, criminals and crazies can buy cheap guns at gun shows without a background check.
    I actually don't have a problem with that particular proposal. The only problem is that it isn't going to stop crime and murder. There are plenty of other ways criminals can get weapons. As a matter of fact, I've read that sometimes a criminal will have someone else buy a gun FOR them, such a spouse or other family member with a clean record.

    Another point I would like to make is that most of the time in school shootings, the shooters are young people with no prior records. So, in actuality, it would probably be useless.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I actually don't have a problem with that particular proposal. The only problem is that it isn't going to stop crime and murder. There are plenty of other ways criminals can get weapons. As a matter of fact, I've read that sometimes a criminal will have someone else buy a gun FOR them, such a spouse or other family member with a clean record.

    Another point I would like to make is that most of the time in school shootings, the shooters are young people with no prior records. So, in actuality, it would probably be useless.

    No one has said it will stop crime an murder. What it will do is make it harder and more expensive for criminals and crazies to get guns.
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No one has said it will stop crime an murder. What it will do is make it harder and more expensive for criminals and crazies to get guns.
    Did you purposefully ignore the rest of my post?

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Did you purposefully ignore the rest of my post?
    I only addressed the relevant parts.
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I only addressed the relevant parts.
    The whole thing is relevant, so if you would please address the rest of my post I would appreciate it.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The whole thing is relevant, so if you would please address the rest of my post I would appreciate it.
    What part do you feel was relevant that I did not address?
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What part do you feel was relevant that I did not address?
    One would think that if a person takes the time to post, it's all relevant. Maybe an answer would be in order...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    It's a high velocity bullet. What needs to be studied? It makes you dead or seriously wounded. I don't need the government to spend money to tell me this. Why does the government want to waist time and money? Because they want to use it as an excuse.
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    Knowledge about how death and injuries from guns in homes relates to what type of guns, the number of guns, the age of the owners, the family structure, etc., all leads to useful knowledge that can provide the public with information to reduce gun injuries or death.

    But of course gun lovers don't give a tinker's damn about that.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I actually don't have a problem with that particular proposal. The only problem is that it isn't going to stop crime and murder. There are plenty of other ways criminals can get weapons. As a matter of fact, I've read that sometimes a criminal will have someone else buy a gun FOR them, such a spouse or other family member with a clean record.

    Another point I would like to make is that most of the time in school shootings, the shooters are young people with no prior records. So, in actuality, it would probably be useless.
    Let's do it, see if it reduces gun violence, and find out. Generally knowledge is useful to thinking people and societies and I expect knowing the backgrounds of potential gun owners would be the same.

    Or do you want to keep doing nothing while the bodies pile up?

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Since you are just interested in my definition, I would include all semi-automatic weapons with detachable magazines.
    which is why we get moronic laws such as california calling this an "assault weapon" even though there is ZERO cases of such a weapon being used in homicide ( I realize you don't know what this is-its an olympic target pistol made by Walther and its an "assault weapon" because its a semi auto pistol that takes a magazine in front of the handle

    It also costs a couple thousand dollars and has no history of criminal misuse. This is what happens when anti gun imbeciles write laws that are based on cranial-rectal inversion rather than caring about stopping criminals

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