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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and now the legal definition of a standard capacity magazine is whatever is issued with the weapon

    so ten years of arbitrary stupidity does not overrule 100 years of sanity


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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    none-other than saving gas which I believe was established. The Interstates were designed to be safe at 70 MPH


    And I believe the basis in 1994 was saving lives, which has been established. The guns were designed to kill many more people without changing mags.
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The law was allowed to "sunset" and you know why the NRA, or any other group/person with a brain, did not sue - the makeup of the SCOTUS virtually assured that it would stand forever. Many stated at the time that this was "step one", thus an affirmation of the AWB/MCL laws by the SCOTUS would have meant an immediate "step two". As you can see, they are at it again, even though gun crime continued to drop after this law had faded out of existance. The vast majority of gun crime does not depend on AWs or HCMs, it is gang/drug thug related, most often by repeat offenders and committed mainly with handguns.

    A reasonable attempt should be made, as I have said often, to designate "GUN OK" on all state issued, photo IDs after a check of the NICS database - that would allow EASY and efficient point of sale checks for guns and ammunition for both big, little and occasional sellers of these items. Universal point of sale access to the NICS database is not a good, or efficient, idea and without a very expensive and invasive national gun registration program one can never assure that no sales/transfers to criminals will occur. Beteer to have a better 90% solution at lower cost, than our current 60% solution at higher cost.

    Your excuses for SCOTUS are noted.

    I think you should submit your proposals for consideration in development of the new background check system.
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The numbers show the problem has grown worse since the ban. If it were up to me, both assault weapons and high capacity magazines would be banned. However, I am a realist, and realize that may not happen until we get more progressives in the House. For now, it appears that getting the background checks expanded to all gun sales is all that is politically likely. I am very happy about this as I think it will have the biggest effect on reducing the access by criminals and crazies to cheap guns in this country.
    Then it is a good thing.....that it is not up to you. Perhaps the Demo Underground and the DNC can find some more stats with some talking point to argue with that actually is worth noting.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The law was allowed to "sunset" and you know why the NRA, or any other group/person with a brain, did not sue - the makeup of the SCOTUS virtually assured that it would stand forever. Many stated at the time that this was "step one", thus an affirmation of the AWB/MCL laws by the SCOTUS would have meant an immediate "step two". As you can see, they are at it again, even though gun crime continued to drop after this law had faded out of existance. The vast majority of gun crime does not depend on AWs or HCMs, it is gang/drug thug related, most often by repeat offenders and committed mainly with handguns.

    A reasonable attempt should be made, as I have said often, to designate "GUN OK" on all state issued, photo IDs after a check of the NICS database - that would allow EASY and efficient point of sale checks for guns and ammunition for both big, little and occasional sellers of these items. Universal point of sale access to the NICS database is not a good, or efficient, idea and without a very expensive and invasive national gun registration program one can never assure that no sales/transfers to criminals will occur. Beteer to have a better 90% solution at lower cost, than our current 60% solution at higher cost.
    Yes, Drivers Licenses could include "gun ok" in their magnetic strip.

    Or our DMV records could simply list "gun ok" and gun dealers could run our licenses through a reader and this simple firearm certification system would tell you if the buyer is ok or not ok to buy a gun.

    But the fact is the only folks who are opposed to universal background checks are folks who want it to remain easy for criminals to get guns through private sales.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Your excuses for SCOTUS are noted.

    I think you should submit your proposals for consideration in development of the new background check system.
    I have sent that proposal to both of my state's (Texas) US Senators but, as yet, have received no reply.
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Vice-President Joe Biden himself admits that a new assault-weapons ban will NOT stop mass-shootings.

    Biden says gun curbs won't end mass killings - Yahoo! News

    If that is the case, then why the **** are they seeking to pass this bill????????????????

    Just so they can pat themselves on the back and say "we did something"????????

    Such ****ing bull****!!!!! Don't seek to pass a bill that you KNOW will have very few results, but WILL unneccessarily incovenience the lives of millions!!!

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Spring99 View Post
    Yes, Drivers Licenses could include "gun ok" in their magnetic strip.

    Or our DMV records could simply list "gun ok" and gun dealers could run our licenses through a reader and this simple firearm certification system would tell you if the buyer is ok or not ok to buy a gun.

    But the fact is the only folks who are opposed to universal background checks are folks who want it to remain easy for criminals to get guns through private sales.
    "GUN OK" should be in big red letters on the face of the ID, that way anyone selling a gun (or ammo) can quickly determine if the sale is legal, simply by looking at the potential buyer's ID. The FFL dealers, Walmarts, the gunshow folks, the clerk at the bait/tackle/ammo strore and the private citizen selling a gun to work buddy could then all rest easy that they did their patriotic duty to keep guns out of the hands of known bad (or underage) folks.
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    "GUN OK" should be in big red letters on the face of the ID, that way anyone selling a gun (or ammo) can quickly determine if the sale is legal, simply by looking at the potential buyer's ID. The FFL dealers, Walmarts, the gunshow folks, the clerk at the bait/tackle/ammo strore and the private citizen selling a gun to work buddy could then all rest easy that they did their patriotic duty to keep guns out of the hands of known bad (or underage) folks.
    So after someone is convicted of a felony, they will have to renew their DL so that it says "no gun" on it?

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I have sent that proposal to both of my state's (Texas) US Senators but, as yet, have received no reply.
    Texas huh? That might help explain why you've heard nothing back, but hey, nothing ventured, nothing gained!
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