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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Those murders in Chicago only make it more obvious how lax our Federal laws are. Keep pointing it out.
    Yeah and it also points out those Gun Laws all passed have proven to be a failure. Course what do Federal laws have to do with a State that has every type of Gun Law you can think in their play book? The same ones that Obama wants to have put in place now. Where did you think he got the model from. He has been in touch with Rahm Emanuel all this time. For his Emotional Nation Push and looking to play on some more divisions within the country.

    Yet Obama can't spare anytime to come here and give a speech in his own alleged hometown.....huh? You mean to tell me that he can waste going to Vegas to give a Speech on Immigration after the Gang of 8 came out and said they have something they think will pass Congress. For his big Photo Op and acting for the Media. Yet he can't come here and talk to the people of Chicago.

    He can shed a tear of the kids in Sandy Hook.....but he cant shed a tear for his own here.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    People dont randomly perfomr background checks. They fill out this long form when attempting to purchase a weapon, then the background check is done. It is a federal form. The background check isnt done if you answer that you are a felon. If they were felons and had proceeded to the point where they had a background check done, they violated federal law. But obviously from your repeated dodge you know A-your statement that the majority of them were criminals is a lie and B-you also know...they werent arrested and convicted. But then...we also know its not your fault. They didnt tell you what to say beyond a one line talking point.
    Show me the arrest records of those that were denied purchase under the background check law and were arrested for having just applied for a background check?
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah and it also points out those Gun Laws all passed have proven to be a failure. Course what do Federal laws have to do with a State that has every type of Gun Law you can think in their play book? The same ones that Obama wants to have put in place now. Where did you think he got the model from. He has been in touch with Rahm Emanuel all this time. For his Emotional Nation Push and looking to play on some more divisions within the country.

    Yet Obama can't spare anytime to come here and give a speech in his own alleged hometown.....huh? You mean to tell me that he can waste going to Vegas to give a Speech on Immigration after the Gang of 8 came out and said they have something they think will pass Congress. For his big Photo Op and acting for the Media. Yet he can't come here and talk to the people of Chicago.

    He can shed a tear of the kids in Sandy Hook.....but he cant shed a tear for his own here.
    Hellz no! Its too dangerous for him to go near those communities he 'organized'.
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah and it also points out those Gun Laws all passed have proven to be a failure.
    Despite, your red color, you are wrong:

    In Virginia, high-yield clip seizures rise
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    Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Despite, your red color, you are wrong:

    In Virginia, high-yield clip seizures rise
    So has the confiscation of smokeless powder firing firearms. Most handguns have a greater than 10 round magazine. Tell me when they seize weapons that aren't using standard magazines. This is all just phrasing. High capacity being an arbitrary term not actually being realistic here. High capacity should imply greater than the standard round count, here it just means more than 10. 15 rounds or 13 is hardly high capacity.
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    So has the confiscation of smokeless powder firing firearms. Most handguns have a greater than 10 round magazine. Tell me when they seize weapons that aren't using standard magazines. This is all just phrasing. High capacity being an arbitrary term not actually being realistic here. High capacity should imply greater than the standard round count, here it just means more than 10. 15 rounds or 13 is hardly high capacity.
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Bipartisan effort to expand background checks quietly gains steam

    "A bipartisan coalition of senators is working on a proposal to strengthen and expand background checks for potential gun purchasers in an attempt to break the partisan gridlock holding up regulations on gun ownership.

    Members of the group, which includes Republicans Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and Mark Kirk of Illinois and Democrats Charles Schumer of New York and Joe Manchin of West Virginia, have declined to discuss specifics of the talks or of a potential bill. …

    The nation must improve the system to encourage states to report the mentally ill and install protections for doctors to enable them to report patients who are “obviously psychotic” to prohibit them from buying guns, Coburn said. …

    Last weekend, Manchin told a West Virginia radio station he was working with Democratic and Republican senators, as well as the National Rifle Association, on something gun rights supporters could back. Such a bill, Manchin said, “basically says that if you’re going to be a gun owner, you should be able to pass a background check.”

    This looks like a fallback position for the Senate, and a fairly safe one. Recent polling consistently shows broad support for expanding background checks. A recent CBS poll showed 92% of respondents in favor of universal background checks, which include 89% of Republicans, 93% of respondents living in gun-owning households, and 85% of respondents either belonging to the NRA or living with an NRA member. (The question was fairly straightforward — “Do you favor or oppose a federal law requiring background checks on all potential gun buyers?”) That’s as close to consensus as one is likely to see on a political topic. If a CBS poll isn’t to your taste, last week’s Rasmussen poll showed 53% of likely voters favoring background checks on existing gun owners, not on new sales but on being allowed to keep the firearms already owned."

    Bipartisan effort to expand background checks quietly gains steam Hot Air
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Despite, your red color, you are wrong:

    In Virginia, high-yield clip seizures rise
    I was referring to Chicago.....that's where you are wrong. As that's even with Chicago confiscating the most firearms more than any other city in the Country. Nice try tho considering I had put up all those Facts with Chicago and it's Gun Laws. Including the Mental health issue, and the fact that Emanuel has helped Obama with his failing push to ban assault weapons.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Bipartisan effort to expand background checks quietly gains steam

    "A bipartisan coalition of senators is working on a proposal to strengthen and expand background checks for potential gun purchasers in an attempt to break the partisan gridlock holding up regulations on gun ownership.

    Members of the group, which includes Republicans Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and Mark Kirk of Illinois and Democrats Charles Schumer of New York and Joe Manchin of West Virginia, have declined to discuss specifics of the talks or of a potential bill. …

    The nation must improve the system to encourage states to report the mentally ill and install protections for doctors to enable them to report patients who are “obviously psychotic” to prohibit them from buying guns, Coburn said. …

    Last weekend, Manchin told a West Virginia radio station he was working with Democratic and Republican senators, as well as the National Rifle Association, on something gun rights supporters could back. Such a bill, Manchin said, “basically says that if you’re going to be a gun owner, you should be able to pass a background check.”

    This looks like a fallback position for the Senate, and a fairly safe one. Recent polling consistently shows broad support for expanding background checks. A recent CBS poll showed 92% of respondents in favor of universal background checks, which include 89% of Republicans, 93% of respondents living in gun-owning households, and 85% of respondents either belonging to the NRA or living with an NRA member. (The question was fairly straightforward — “Do you favor or oppose a federal law requiring background checks on all potential gun buyers?”) That’s as close to consensus as one is likely to see on a political topic. If a CBS poll isn’t to your taste, last week’s Rasmussen poll showed 53% of likely voters favoring background checks on existing gun owners, not on new sales but on being allowed to keep the firearms already owned."

    Bipartisan effort to expand background checks quietly gains steam Hot Air
    Yeah I know I'm the one that put it up.

    Course Rasmussen shows 53 despite the CBS Poll and for those into CBS. Tho the one stat that is missing is concerning about those who already own firearms being put on a National Registry. Myself I think it should only include those going forward. But that the State doesn't need to relinquish the Rights of it's Citizen to the Fed.

    As the Law was in effect and those peoples Rights cannot be infringed upon.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I was referring to Chicago.....that's where you are wrong. As that's even with Chicago confiscating the most firearms more than any other city in the Country. Nice try tho considering I had put up all those Facts with Chicago and it's Gun Laws. Including the Mental health issue, and the fact that Emanuel has helped Obama with his failing push to ban assault weapons.
    The point I made was that federal bans work better than local bans because of the ease of buying guns outside the locality. All you have done is make the case for federal gun control.
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