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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Before they make any new laws they need to make the present laws have a real bite.

    For instance the guy who shot Gifford and killed the little 9 yr old girl is still alive.
    Why is that puke still alive? What the hell people.
    Unless it is only circumstantial evidence somebody who starts killing people left and right with that many witnesses should be destroyed in one week. Period. Like a rabid dog.

    Both sides of the arguement should agree to that , right?

    Caught with a gun in crime and do life.

    I realize alot of these murderers don't have a record and we will only catch them after the fact. I don't know if this would be a deterrent or not. But quick punishment would prevent some from basking in their fame.
    Because there are too many Libbos in this country that oppose the death penalty.

    Caught with a gun in crime and do life.
    Gun crimes should automatically get the death penalty.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Because they don't give a **** about saving lives or reducing violence. All they care about is exploiting the death of cute little victims to further their ideological cause of banning assault weapons.
    Damn right, bro! It's all their interested in and nothing else.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I didn't see Ms. Giffords' "testimony" but I'm sure it was very touching. I do wonder, however, if she spoke at length to the issue of mental illness and how it consumed the young man who shot at her and killed the others.

    At the risk of sounding uncharitabl, I also find it sad to the point of irritating when a "victim" of a crime goes on to make a career out of that victimhood.
    I think you just became my favorite Canadian.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "But by the end, one thing seemed clearer: A consensus is emerging among lawmakers for an expansion of background checks for gun buyers, a proposal with far more bipartisan support than a reinstatement of the federal assault-weapons ban.

    “Universal background checks is a proven, effective step we can take to reduce gun violence,” Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said at the hearing. “And I believe it has a good chance of passing.”

    The purpose of the hearing was to shape gun legislation that can pass a splintered Congress. Committee Chairman Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) said he expects the panel to craft a bill by next month."

    Gabrielle Giffords speaks at Senate hearing on gun violence: ‘You must act. Be bold.’ - The Washington Post
    I agree with Catawba amazingly on this. I have no problem at all with background checks or a small wait because of a background check. Again we already go through this with buy's from a dealer so I see no reason not to go forward with that aspect.

    Where I have a problem is what will happen with the information...

    #1 Will they keep this record on some listing someplace?
    #2 Will it be public or private record?
    #3 Who will control this information?
    #4 Will this register a gun to me and anyone I pass it to?

    I have more of a problem is with bans. No need for them.
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I think you just became my favorite Canadian.
    What other Canadian do you like?

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    By all means...do both. As soon as you figure out how to limit access make sure you pass that word to the DEA folks. Limiting access to heroin, rock, and pot has been a dismal failure. See...criminals...they figure that whole 'access' thing out.
    The Brady bill reduced access so far to 1.9 million people that could not pass the background check, mostly felons. Extending the background check to all gun sales in the 40 remaining states where it is not required will reduce access even further.
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    Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The Brady bill reduced access so far to 1.9 million people that could not pass the background check, mostly felons. Extending the background check to all gun sales in the 40 remaining states where it is not required will reduce access even further.
    Really? So there must have been 1.9 million arrests and convictions for that illegal activity...right? Sorry pal....bull**** talking points rhetoric is just bull**** talking points rhetoric no matter how many times it is parroted.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What other Canadian do you like?
    CanadianJoe, but he hasn't posted in a long time.

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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Really? So there must have been 1.9 million arrests and convictions for that illegal activity...right? Sorry pal....bull**** talking points rhetoric is just bull**** talking points rhetoric no matter how many times it is parroted.
    FACT - Since 1994, the NCIS background checks required by the Brady Law has stopped over 1.9 million criminals and other prohibited people from purchasing firearms from licensed dealers.

    Source U.S. Department of Justice. Bureau of Justice Statistics, Background Checks for Firearm Transfers, 2009: Statistical Tables (October 2010)
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    Re: Senate gun hearing opens with Giffords' call for action

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I think you just became my favorite Canadian.
    Thank you sir - we're not all bad up here, you know, just as you're not all bad down there either.

    And I can tell you're a conservative - makes you accepting and respectful of differing opinions - as a Politico refugee, my experience has been that the most hateful, race baiting, xenophobes always either self-identify as liberal/Democrats or expose themselves as such through their words and thoughts.

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