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    Re: McCain: Failure To Act on Immigration Could Turn Red States Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    The Republican Party can not win a national election if it continues to ignore the Hispanic vote.

    The Republican Party doesn't ignore Hispanics. In fact there are more Republican Hispanic Governors than Democrat Hispanic Governors. Same true with the Senate in Congress.

    Take a look at the House of Representatives. Look at the election results of all Republican and Democrat Hispanic Representatives. You'll notice the the Republican Hispanic Congressmen or women were elected by mostly whites. Also look at the total numbers of votes that were casted at the polls. You'll notice there was around 200,000 votes casted in that Congressional District.

    Now look at the Democrat Hispanics members in the House. They come from highly Hispanic / Latino Congressional Districts. Now look at how many votes were cast, usually around 100,000. Usually in these districts, there aren't that many U.S. citizens living in these districts.

    Look at the leadership of the GOP. You'll find more Hispanics than you will in the Democrat Party organizations around the country. A perfect example would be the GOP "California Republican Assembly." The President of the CRA is a Hispanic, a naturalized citizen, Celeste Greg. She doesn't have a Hispanic surname because she married a U.S. Marine, a decorated combat veteran of the battle of Iwo Jima.

    BTW: The CRA was the Republican organization that Ronald Reagan hooked up with after the Democrat Party left him.

    Amnesty isn't a big issue with most U.S. citizens Hispanics.

    If the Republican Party was spitting on the "Rule of Law" and advocating blanket amnesty for all illegal aliens and open borders. And the Democrat Party was for the "Rule of Law" and advocating that our borders be secured and that the immigration laws that are on the books be enforce, 2/3 of the Hispanic voters would still vote the Democrat Party because the Democrat Party offers free stuff for their votes.

    It has become a cultural thing. 1/2 of all Mexican Latino voters are either naturalized citizens, anchor babies or sons or daughters of legal immigrant parents. A recent study just released last year on Latinos of Mexican decent shows that the vast majority believe that government is the source for prosperity. And the Democrat Party offers free stuff. When over half of all legal Latino immigrants are on the doe and receiving some form of public assistance and this is also true with 50 % of all Latino illegal aliens. That's a huge number of people who are dependent on government.

    Why do you think the Democrat Party wants just not reward amnesty to 20 million law breakers but also speed up a passage to citizenship ? These newly legal residents and future citizens and voters will have a monkey on their backs, the government. They will become dependent on government. And when your dependent on government, you vote the Democrat ticket.

    Once you have that government monkey on your back, your addicted. The only way to kick that habit and get that monkey off your back are conservative Republican policies.
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    Re: McCain: Failure To Act on Immigration Could Turn Red States Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Post your question here as an OP in a new thread, and I'll be glad to answer your general question as to how centrists and conservatives differ on the issues.

    But I don't want to derail this thread.
    Actually, I'm not sure such a thread would be allowed.
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    Re: McCain: Failure To Act on Immigration Could Turn Red States Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Actually, I'm not sure such a thread would be allowed.
    I've seen similar threads; there's nothing in the rules that disallow such threads.
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    Re: McCain: Failure To Act on Immigration Could Turn Red States Blue

    Well, I don't understand the difficulty in you responding to the question. You stated in your post that you weren't a conservative. I think my questions could have been answered in this thread without any 'derailing'. Frankly, I'm just interested in how people claim to be something and/or deny being something when every single post they make screams exactly the opposite.

    If you choose not to answer, that's OK too.
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    Re: McCain: Failure To Act on Immigration Could Turn Red States Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    There's nothing of any significant consequence that the conservative Repubs can do about these matters and still remain who they are: conservative Repubs.
    A scorched earth immigration approach is not a requirement of conservatism and never has been. Indeed, President Reagan took a different approach.

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    Re: McCain: Failure To Act on Immigration Could Turn Red States Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    A scorched earth immigration approach is not a requirement of conservatism and never has been. Indeed, President Reagan took a different approach.
    There's no such thing as a "scorched earth" immigration approach.

    So your creation and use of that nonsense term is meaningless rhetoric designed to spin the focus away from the 20 million law-breaking criminals.

    This issue rightly isn't one of immigration at all.

    It's a law, enforcement, and justice-for-U.S.-citizens issue, nothing more.

    The 20 million illegals are not "immigrants" -- they're simply criminals.

    As to the separate topic of immigration, our current laws are just fine.

    If people find it long and difficult to get into America, it's because we've yet to get our own citizens and legal immigrants back to work, and thus it should be very difficult for people to immigrate to America until we have jobs for them we can't fill with our own people and until we have available resources for them that won't create over-crowding of our land, cities, roads, and an undue drain on water, classrooms, emergency care facilities and other critical resources.

    That simply makes good sense.

    And if people in other countries don't like that, that it takes too long and too much effort to immigrate here to a land of supposed higher standard of living, I strongly suggest they get to courageous work and make necessary changes in their own country to achieve the higher standard of living they seek.
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