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    Re: Economy shrinks for first time in 3 1/2 years

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    Interesting isn't it that you would tout a 20+ misery index as a gothca moment. The misery index alone makes the 81-82 recession worse and you ought to see that
    Using such analysis, the recession of the 1980's was worse than the recession of the 1930's. Somehow i just cannot agree with that analysis.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Economy shrinks for first time in 3 1/2 years

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    Democrats controlled the entire Congress from 2007 to 2011...
    Good. Talk about that. I would like to hear you make an argument that addresses the people who are actually responsible for making our laws. But that might require you to do some actual thinking and work.

    ...and good leadership creates the atmosphere of bipartisanship
    Uh huh. So your argument is that we don't have good leaders in Congress? Or are you suggesting, rather daftly, that the President is suppose to have powerful influence over an entirely different branch of government?

    Reagan knew it but Obama is a community agitater.
    Funny. I'm sure the liberals would argue the reverse. Instead of getting stuck on the President maybe you might actually inform yourself on the people who are responsible for making the laws instead of being a sheep who allows himself to be fooled into believing the president is responsible. Was Bush responsible for the entire Congress? Or does your logic only extend to Obama?

    Obama and his Obamabots have zero credibility and the numbers show it.
    I don't like Obama, and I don't like rapid Obama supporters, but I surely don't like people who lack so little understanding of our government that they think the president is responsible for passing laws in our country and directing the economy.
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    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    Re: Economy shrinks for first time in 3 1/2 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Using such analysis, the recession of the 1980's was worse than the recession of the 1930's. Somehow i just cannot agree with that analysis.
    You have provided no analysis just like you haven't told us how the recession of 07-09 hurt you or your family. Every American was affected by the high interest rates, high inflation of the 81-82 recession and Reagan leadership got us out of it. Obama's lack of leadership prolonged the most recent recession as he lacks leadership skills but is rather a leftwing ideologue

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    Re: Economy shrinks for first time in 3 1/2 years

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Good. Talk about that. I would like to hear you make an argument that addresses the people who are actually responsible for making our laws. But that might require you to do some actual thinking and work.



    Uh huh. So your argument is that we don't have good leaders in Congress? Or are you suggesting, rather daftly, that the President is suppose to have powerful influence over an entirely different branch of government?



    Funny. I'm sure the liberals would argue the reverse. Instead of getting stuck on the President maybe you might actually inform yourself on the people who are responsible for making the laws instead of being a sheep who allows himself to be fooled into believing the president is responsible. Was Bush responsible for the entire Congress? Or does your logic only extend to Obama?



    I don't like Obama, and I don't like rapid Obama supporters, but I surely don't like people who lack so little understanding of our government that they think the president is responsible for passing laws in our country and directing the economy.
    Leadership comes from the top not the bottom up, Reagan understood that and worked with a Democrat House, Obama's policy of "my way or the highway" has hurt this country more than any Obamabot will admit

    I fully understand who makes the laws just like I understand who sets the agenda. Obama poor leadership has created the devisive Congress we have today.

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    Re: Economy shrinks for first time in 3 1/2 years

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    Leadership comes from the top not the bottom up,
    Bottom up? It is Congress! They make the laws! The President is only responsible for enforcing them! Take a damn class in government!
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    Re: Economy shrinks for first time in 3 1/2 years

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Bottom up? It is Congress! They make the laws! The President is only responsible for enforcing them! Take a damn class in government!
    LOL, executive orders aren't issued by Congress. Pay attention to what is going on

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    Re: Economy shrinks for first time in 3 1/2 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You have provided no analysis just like you haven't told us how the recession of 07-09 hurt you or your family. Every American was affected by the high interest rates, high inflation of the 81-82 recession and Reagan leadership got us out of it. Obama's lack of leadership prolonged the most recent recession as he lacks leadership skills but is rather a leftwing ideologue
    Net Worth of Households and non-profits fell by more than 30% during 2008-2009, and are still not at previous levels. I know you are having trouble understanding the significance. The total wealth in the U.S. is at 2006 levels. Anecdotes do not support your hypothesis.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Economy shrinks for first time in 3 1/2 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You have provided no analysis just like you haven't told us how the recession of 07-09 hurt you or your family. Every American was affected by the high interest rates, high inflation of the 81-82 recession and Reagan leadership got us out of it. Obama's lack of leadership prolonged the most recent recession as he lacks leadership skills but is rather a leftwing ideologue
    It is fairly obvious from reading krushinators posts he is knowledgeable about what he is talking about on a very sophisticated level of that of being an expert.

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    Re: Economy shrinks for first time in 3 1/2 years

    Conservative, you are wrong. The misery index is not the sole indicator of the depth and problems inherit in a recession. The current recession is as bad if not worse than the one in Reagan's term and worse for its length if nothing else. While inflation is not as high, unemployment is both higher and more in depth throughout the population.

    Your point as to which one is worse is kind of moot because they are different circumstances with different problems. Problems which we are not solving very well imo.

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    Re: Economy shrinks for first time in 3 1/2 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, executive orders aren't issued by Congress. Pay attention to what is going on
    Reachin for straws now are ya? Executive orders have what to do with the economy shrinking?
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    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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