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Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

Assuming your info is accurate, it appears that physicians and individuals tried to coerce women into getting the shot. As far as "Israel" goes, they are the ones saying to cease doing this.


Well, after 40 years. How did that happen?
 
Sadly, that's the life of the average developing world woman and birth control. Sure, some husbands want birth control, but not most.

I guess their wives not conceiving for a couple dozen years didn't set off any alarms.
 
I guess their wives not conceiving for a couple dozen years didn't set off any alarms.

It happens (a few years at least, in a row) and denial is a powerful tool, it excuses him (socially) as well. We don't have info regarding if the patients took the shots without break in treatment. Surely some of the 100k have children.
 
But here's the fun part, and why this kinda smells fishy...

How can Israel counter except by calling for more careful documentation of informed consent. They can't go "the Ethiopian husbands are neanderthals!", that probably wouldn't work out for 'em. This little stunt quite, if I might say, got them by the balls.
 
It happens (a few years at least, in a row) and denial is a powerful tool, it excuses him (socially) as well. We don't have info regarding if the patients took the shots without break in treatment. Surely some of the 100k have children.

ANOTHER TIER!

"There is no proof black Ethiopian women continued to be coerced into taking birth control even though the birth rate among them over the last 40 years was one fifth that of white Jewish women."
 
But here's the fun part, and why this kinda smells fishy...

How can Israel counter except by calling for more careful documentation of informed consent. They can't go "the Ethiopian husbands are neanderthals!", that probably wouldn't work out for 'em. This little stunt quite, if I might say, got them by the balls.

Really. What "stunt" is that?
 
ANOTHER TIER!

"There is no proof black Ethiopian women continued to be coerced into taking birth control even though the birth rate among them over the last 40 years was one fifth that of white Jewish women."
And again that isn't a tier.

Prove that their birth rate is because of forced measures instead of informed consent. Let alone uninformed consent.

For all you know, they may very well have been taking the BC by consent.
 
ANOTHER TIER!

"There is no proof black Ethiopian women continued to be coerced into taking birth control even though the birth rate among them over the last 40 years was one fifth that of white Jewish women."

Even if that stat is correct (I doubt it), and the data would need to be examined below aggregate, what evidence is there of coercion?
 
Even if that stat is correct (I doubt it), and the data would need to be examined below aggregate, what evidence is there of coercion?
Do you know where he got that stat?
 
I'm done on this thread, but let it be a lesson why no one in the US ever, ever, ever wants to go up against the Jewish Lobby.

Next, I'll be accused of being an anti-semite for even mentioning the Jewish lobby. The first rule is you never, ever go up against them, the second is you one never, ever talk about Fight Club.

And that's why they're so dangerous. Be warned.
 
I'm done on this thread, but let it be a lesson why no one in the US ever, ever, ever wants to go up against the Jewish Lobby.

Next, I'll be accused of being an anti-semite for even mentioning the Jewish lobby. The first rule is you never, ever go up against them, the second is you one never, ever talk about Fight Club.

And that's why they're so dangerous. Be warned.
Holy ****!
If you are truly done, it is because you don't have a leg to stand on.
Israel takes steps to ensure nothing nefarious is happening and you complain. Go figure.
 
I'm done on this thread,

YAY!!

but let it be a lesson why no one in the US ever, ever, ever wants to go up against the Jewish Lobby.

Next, I'll be accused of being an anti-semite for even mentioning the Jewish lobby. .

I would never accuse you of being an anti-semite for dredging up such revealing antisemitic canards.

I don't use the hyphen.
 
Sounds a lot like the Negro Project.
I am sure that is what some want to believe, but it doesn't sound that way at all.
 
I am sure that is what some want to believe, but it doesn't sound that way at all.

I take it you've never even heard of the Negro Project.
 
If some of us seem overly defensive of Israel it's because of **** like this. Put Israel in the title of any thread and it won't take long for the bashing to start regardless of whether it has to do with the thread or not.

Yes, there are completely unapologetic bigots on this board, and there are people who will accuse you of antisemitism just for farting wrong

To say it's annoying to try and have a rational discussion while caught between these two would be a drastic understatement
 
Israel takes steps to ensure nothing nefarious is happening and you complain. Go figure.

Not just that. He claims the measures taken to ensure nothing nefarious is happening is evidence that something nefarious is, in fact, happening - he's calls it an "admission".
 
I am sure that is what some want to believe, but it doesn't sound that way at all.

Things sound pretty inconclusive either way you want to cut it, tbh. And certainly it wouldn't surprise me learning something like this was going on at the state level or below in most of the world.

So, again, I see little point in simply dismissing it
 
What is the Negro project?

A Liberal that doesn't know what the Negro Project is? It was a eugenics scheme started by Left Wing heroin, Margaret Sanger. Ever hear of the Margaret Sanger award? "The Maggy"? It's an award given out to people by the pro-abortion crowd for their support of abortion rights in the United States. I find it incredibly ironic that the past several recipients have been black.

I mention it, because I see quite a few Libbos getting their asses in the air over what Israel did, but either ignore, or are ignorant of, the Negro Project.

BTW, they don't call it the Negro Project anymore. It's now called, "Planned Parenthood".
 
No you are not.
You are accepting an allegation.

Their word indicated that the administrators need to make sure there is no misunderstanding.
That may mean that there was some misunderstanding before. Not that something was purposely done wrongly, or forced, or anything of the sort.
Which means that it wasn't a tacit admission of wrong doing at all.

I have disagreed with Excon during most of this thread, but he is absolutely correct about the statement and it's wording. naturally it doesn't prove someone didn't carry out such an endeavor, but it's clearly not an admission of guilt
 
Yes, there are completely unapologetic bigots on this board, and there are people who will accuse you of antisemitism just for farting wrong

To say it's annoying to try and have a rational discussion while caught between these two would be a drastic understatement


So, what do you think of those who repeat all the familiar old Canards right out of the Elders of Zion? I have seen dozens on this board over the years.

They aren't "farting wrong" but engaging in honest to goodness antisemitism.
 
How many women received the injection? The article says only 30 women were interviewed. I think the idea that there are "racist implications" should be questioned. How do we know it wasn't just a mix-up or a mistake?
 
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