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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    And thus my point about sterilization.
    Well, no. No matter how long you continue medical birth control you have not sterilized the patients because they are still capable of being fertile.

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    So your mother did not teach you how to use a dictionary. Sort of like the old saying about how the shoemaker's son is always in need of shoes, isn't it?
    Does this apply to other professsions? Abortionists, prison guards, proctologists, horse inseminators, etc?
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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Well, no. No matter how long you continue medical birth control you have not sterilized the patients because they are still capable of being fertile.
    If a person is continually injected with hormones which make them infertile, how would they be capable of reproducing?
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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    If a person is continually injected with hormones which make them infertile, how would they be capable of reproducing?
    You stop giving them the hormones.

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    You stop giving them the hormones.

    I see. So what you are saying is that, by injecting them with this hormone, you are depriving them of the power to reproduce. And in order to grant them the power to reproduce again, you must STOP injecting them with said hormone.

    Now where oh where have I seen something along the lines of "deprive someone the power to reproduce" recently? I'm sure I saw it somewhere. Do you know where I might have seen that?
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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I see. So what you are saying is that, by injecting them with this hormone, you are depriving them of the power to reproduce. And in order to grant them the power to reproduce again, you must STOP injecting them with said hormone.

    Now where oh where have I seen something along the lines of "deprive someone the power to reproduce" recently? I'm sure I saw it somewhere. Do you know where I might have seen that?
    I say that "you stop giving them hormones" only as a manner of speaking. Actually, any means by which they no longer get the hormones will restore fertility.

    Possibly you recall how Western peoples are no longer reproducing enough to keep populations from declining. China, with a 1 child only policy, has a fertility rate of 1.5. Americans, who can have as many children as they like, have a fertility rate only slightly higher. In Europe it's quite a bit lower than that. Go figure.

    You know that 20 million Mexicans who are supposed to be here illegally? Well, we'd better make citizens of them fast before they get wind of the economy in Mexico. The birth rate in Mexico has plunged over the last 20 years, and they are barely above the replacement rate now. They can no longer send us the babies that we can't be bothered to have. In terms of net migration, they basically stopped coming here 3 years ago. Pretty soon our population will be too old, and it will play Hob with Social Security, Medicare, and all the rest.

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    True or false: the drug works as a contraceptive because it deprives them of the power of reproduction while it is in their system.
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    Re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    True or false: the drug works as a contraceptive because it deprives them of the power of reproduction while it is in their system.

    That is true, but to say that sterilization occurs because of that process is clinically false.
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    Re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That is true, but to say that sterilization occurs because of that process is clinically false.
    If it is true, then it is sterilization as per the Webster's definition of that word. My question was worded quite specifically to test whether the definition applies verbatim.
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    Re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Don't know about dictionary definitions...mainly because I haven't sought a definition on this topic, however....

    Many years ago I had a vasectomy, which is completely reversible. While I'm unable to impregnate a woman (or damn well better be) I'm technically still able to reproduce.

    So, by the book definition, am I sterile?

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