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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Really?
    You want to engage in some sort of semantics.
    It wasn't sterilization as it does not make the person sterile.
    Okay, it wasn't permanent sterilization.

    How does that change the story?

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Really?
    You want to engage in some sort of semantics.
    It wasn't sterilization as it does not make the person sterile.
    seems the program made them "incapable of reproduction." on a temporary basis. And being that the definition of sterilization is "any procedure by which an individual is made incapable of reproduction" it seems like a good fit

    sterilization - definition of sterilization in the Medical dictionary - by the Free Online Medical Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    Or would you prefer "the chemical prevention of reproduction" to just be difficult?

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Really?
    You want to engage in some sort of semantics.
    It wasn't sterilization as it does not make the person sterile.
    So while they were injected with these shots they had the ability to reproduce?
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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Yeah, and the media assertion that Israel sterilized 100,000 without their consent and them knowing based off of media sources is entirely accurate and should be accepted

    People with a bias against Israel or a desire to believe that they are an evil nation will accept anything from any source that is critical of the nation without digging any deeper and trying to find facts without the spin associated with it.

    Considering who started the thread, I wouldn't worry about it. Then 2 responses from pretty solid conservatives saying it was wrong...

    I'm just saying that at first that's exactly what I expected from the thread, but then I read it and saw that wasn't it.


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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Israel Admits ‘Shameful’ Birth Control Drug Injected in Unaware Ethiopian Jews

    Israel Admits

    The Israeli government has tacitly acknowledged injecting Ethiopian women immigrating to Israel with a long-acting contraceptive without their knowledge, telling them they couldn't come into the country if they didn't take the shot, which the women thought was a vaccination.

    Many have called the practice appallingly racist.

    The shots are being blamed for a 50 percent drop in the birth rate in Israel's Ethiopian community over the past decade.

    There are about 120,000 Jews of Ethiopian origin living in Israel, about a third of them born in Israel. There have long been conspiracy theories circulating about forced sterilization. But after a documentary aired last month on Israel's Educational Network, Health Ministry Director General Ron Gamzu has banned Israel's health maintenance organizations from injecting Ethiopian women with the contraceptive Depo-Provera.

    CRAP! WE GOT CAUGHT!

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    The only misunderstanding is among Israel apologists.
    Why would Israel sterilize fellow Jews? Given the ethnic division in Israel/Palestine, would more Jewish citizens be ideal?

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    Notice the word games the supporters of this heinous policy of the State of Israel employ.

    Well, it WASN'T sterilization! (no, it was forced birth control, like it makes a difference).

    It was TEMPORARY sterilization...oops, I mean birth control!

    PROVE it was done without their consent! ("It's just an inoculation. If you want entry into Israel you HAVE to take this or you won't be admitted, we don't need a bunch of darkies running around the Temple. TAKE THE RED PILL MOFO OR YOU'RE GOING BACK TO YOUR MUD HUT!")
    You have yet to show that it was actually forced.
    You have yet to show that an actual policy existed to force such.
    All you have shown is your propensity to engage in hyperbole for nefarious purposes.


    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    The only misunderstanding is among Israel apologists.
    Like I said, "for nefarious purposes".

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    seems the program made them "incapable of reproduction." on a temporary basis. And being that the definition of sterilization is "any procedure by which an individual is made incapable of reproduction" it seems like a good fit

    sterilization - definition of sterilization in the Medical dictionary - by the Free Online Medical Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    Or would you prefer "the chemical prevention of reproduction" to just be difficult?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    So while they were injected with these shots they had the ability to reproduce?
    We are speaking biology folks. This isn't hard.
    They were not rendered sterile at all.

    1 a process or act that renders a person unable to produce children. See also hysterectomy, tubal ligation, vasectomy.

    They were and still are able to "produce" children.
    They were not sterilized.
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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Why would Israel sterilize fellow Jews? Given the ethnic division in Israel/Palestine, would more Jewish citizens be ideal?
    Because they're darkies?

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    We are speaking biology folks. This isn't hard.
    Which is why I cited a medical dictionary ...


    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    a process or act that renders a person unable to produce children
    did the process leave them "unable to produce children"? Yes, on a temporary basis. Hence "temporary sterilization".

    Not sure how this really speaks to the issue though

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