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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And who, up to that post, had "refus(ed) to believe anything negative about the Israeli government"?
    a number of people. Just go back and read the thread

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Just admit I'm probably right (about the show, the 'research', the conclusions, the motives and all that fancy demographic stuff I explained) and Israel is almost certainly not committing genocide against its Ethiopians.\
    I'm sorry, but your theorizing on possible scenarios isn't the same as reviewing the actual data and pointing to flaws in it. And it's rather funny that you seem intent in demanding me to ignore this difference

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Does everyone need to highlight something that they think Israel has done wrong, bad, poorly or just not great, before we can discuss this news?

    The whole "you think Israel can do no wrong" argument is stupid, it doesn't go anywhere.

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Does everyone need to highlight something that they think Israel has done wrong, bad, poorly or just not great, before we can discuss this news?
    No, but that is different than simply denying something as a possibility, because it involves Israel

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    a number of people. Just go back and read the thread
    The first few pages are pretty much comments by folks who immediately accepted the story as truth, but, of course, that's no problem. Lol.

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

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    No, but that is different than simply denying something as a possibility, because it involves Israel
    That's tantamount to an ad hom. It's mere dismissal of a member's argument, it's not debate and such a challenge has absolutely no where to go as far as this thread is concerned.

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    The first few pages are pretty much comments by folks who immediately accepted the story as truth, but, of course, that's no problem. Lol.
    HAHAHA~!!! So the vague accusations of antisemitism now swing my way. Why not just go play with Spanky and save us the pointless dribble

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I'm sorry, but your theorizing on possible scenarios isn't the same as reviewing the actual data and pointing to flaws in it. And it's rather funny that you seem intent in demanding me to ignore this difference
    It will be funnier when I'm vindicated. This "story" (well, it is a story, for a TV show, it's not a peer reviewed article) will be criticised just as I have. It could take months, but I'm convinced it's sensationalism. Show me a supporting study (an actual study) or population data with citations. Because the TV study doesn't have those.

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It will be funnier when I'm vindicated. This "story" (well, it is a story, for a TV show, it's not a peer reviewed article) will be criticised just as I have. It could take months, but I'm convinced it's sensationalism. Show me a supporting study (an actual study) or population data with citations. Because the TV study doesn't have those.
    I never said you were wrong, only that your arguments are not actually based on the data, but what you think the data is

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    HAHAHA~!!! So the vague accusations of antisemitism now swing my way. Why not just go play with Spanky and save us the pointless dribble
    Why are you piling on spanky? I believe his "points" can be considered strawmen at this point in the discussion, as he demands that uncited numbers and unreviewed data be dismantled immediately. Well, there's nothing to dismantle. It's a TV show, with uncited numbers and a few quotes that it most certainly fished for, perhaps with the knowledge of gender population stuff I've highlighted (which would make it pretty evil).

    Show me something cited or reviewed, otherwise you're asking me to debate with Glen Beck.

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