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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Yes, but that happens in every developing state, and these states usually deal with a huge generational lag in getting birth rates under control (assuming that they ever do accomplish this)
    Assuming they ever do? EVERYTIME EVER in the known history of man, a drop in infant mortality and death rate has resulted in the demographic transition. That goes for societies, immigrants and any other example you can come up with.

    As I mentioned earlier, despite relative luxury (I was referring to the IM and D rates), men often lag a generation or two in making the transition. It seems that until capital must be divided into pieces for heirs, the transitioning male generation(s) like to continue to pump out kids.
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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

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    PERFECT! Spoken like MENGELE!
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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

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    No you are not.
    You are accepting an allegation.

    Their word indicated that the administrators need to make sure there is no misunderstanding.
    That may mean that there was some misunderstanding before. Not that something was purposely done wrongly, or forced, or anything of the sort.
    Which means that it wasn't a tacit admission of wrong doing at all.
    As I expected, you are simply unable to accept that Israel is anything less than perfect. It's either partisan blinders or you live in a completely different reality than the rest of us do.


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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    As I expected, you are simply unable to accept that Israel is anything less than perfect. It's either partisan blinders or you live in a completely different reality than the rest of us do.
    Right and it couldn't be your own bias that makes you take a non-admission as a full confession.

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    What I mean is... a male who sees his inheritance divided will transition but his mother transitioned as soon as things got good. At least that's my readings and observations. It's a bit sweeping, really, to just throw out there even with quals.
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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Assuming they ever do? EVERYTIME EVER in the known history of man, a drop in infant mortality and death rate has resulted in the demographic transition. That goes for societies, immigrants and any other example you can come up with.
    India has been dealing with the effects of lower infant mortality and lower death rates for some time now, and have not been able to get their birth rate under control. Is it lower than what it was 20 years ago? yes, but it is not under control

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    As I expected, you are simply unable to accept that Israel is anything less than perfect. It's either partisan blinders or you live in a completely different reality than the rest of us do.
    again, if you read the articles, it's far from an admission of guilt

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    India has been dealing with the effects of lower infant mortality and lower death rates for some time now, and have not been able to get their birth rate under control. Is it lower than what it was 20 years ago? yes, but it is not under control
    In the areas that the fertility rates remain outrageous, the heathcare (and sanitation, and nutrition) does not exist. As a whole, India remains a developing country (which means pre-demotrans conditions).

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    In the areas that the rates remain outrageous, the heathcare (and sanitation, and nutrition) does not exist. As a whole, India remains a developing country (which means pre-demotrans).
    I agree, which is why I cited the fact women relocating to Israel would have the benefit of a very robust state health and education system

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061405501

    PS if you're saying the birthrate only remains high in undeveloped parts of the country I disagree. The people might originate from undeveloped areas, but one of the major components of this boom is that they relocate and continue the practice in urban centers

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